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by mundasingh123 » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:00 pm
Like Auden. the language of James Merrill is chatty, arch, and conversational--given to complex syntactic
flights as well as to prosaic free-verse strolls.
(A) Like Auden, the language of James Merrill
(B) Like Auden, James Merrill's language
(C) Like Auden's, James Merrill's language
(D) As with Auden, James Merrill's language
(E) As is Auden's the language of James Merrill
why is E wrong ?
Could someone give a good reason beside the absence of comma after the As clause
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by badpoem » Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:11 pm
Here we are comparing two languages. Like is the best option. I believe 'as' is used when actions or clauses are compared.

That brings us to - compared to C, it is wordy.

Btw, is the OA (C) ?
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by crick » Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:14 pm
I will go with C here.

E is wrong because as is used for comparison of verb clauses.

Auden's language is still a noun :) .
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by prashant.mishra » Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:39 pm
IMO C.
mundasingh123 wrote:Like Auden. the language of James Merrill is chatty, arch, and conversational--given to complex syntactic
flights as well as to prosaic free-verse strolls.
(A) Like Auden, the language of James Merrill- OUT-Incorrect comparison
(B) Like Auden, James Merrill's language- OUT-Incorrect comparison
(C) Like Auden's, James Merrill's language- CORRECT. Like is used to compare nouns correctly- Language to language comparison.
(D) As with Auden, James Merrill's language- OUT-Incorrect comparison
(E) As is Auden's the language of James Merrill- "As" helps to compare actions and clauses as "badpoem" has rightly mentioned. There is another mistake in E. Where has the comma gone? Makes this option incorrect on clarity issues, Awkwardness.
why is E wrong ?
Could someone give a good reason beside the absence of comma after the As clause
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by mad2011 » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:09 pm
Like Auden. the language of James Merrill is chatty, arch, and conversational--given to complex syntactic
flights as well as to prosaic free-verse strolls.
(A) Like Auden, the language of James Merrill - comparing Apple with oranges(Auden with JM's language)
(B) Like Auden, James Merrill's language -Same as A
(C) Like Auden's, James Merrill's language - CORRECT
(D) As with Auden, James Merrill's language - WRONG As is used in clause(phrase with verb)
(E) As is Auden's the language of James Merrill -Awkward


IMO C
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by avik.ch » Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:33 pm
mundasingh123 wrote:Like Auden. the language of James Merrill is chatty, arch, and conversational--given to complex syntactic
flights as well as to prosaic free-verse strolls.
(A) Like Auden, the language of James Merrill
(B) Like Auden, James Merrill's language
(C) Like Auden's, James Merrill's language
(D) As with Auden, James Merrill's language
(E) As is Auden's the language of James Merrill
why is E wrong ?

I will go for C. But why E is wrong, my explanation goes as follows :

Here Auden's langauge is compared with James's langauge. ( both is in possesive form )

All the following comparison is correct :

Like Auden, james
like the langauge of Auden, the langauge of James
Like Auden's language, james's language ( both in possesive form )
But it is wrong to compare :
Auden's language with the language of James ( possesive can be compared only with posessive )

More over "as" is incorrect here, "like" is generally used to compare two nouns or noun phrases where as "as" is used to compare verbs/actions.

Hope this helps
mundasingh123 wrote:Could someone give a good reason beside the absence of comma after the As clause


I could not understand absence of which comma you are referring to.
Are you are referring to E : As is Auden's the language of James Merrill
Please clarify
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by navami » Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:26 am
[spoiler]C is the only || Option[/spoiler]
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by kdraj » Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:34 am
I will go with C

Like is used for comparing Nouns eg. John, like Jenny enjoys singing.
As is used for comparing phrases eg. Swimming is a good exercise, as running is.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

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by mundasingh123 » Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:44 am
(E) As is Auden's
isnt is a verb
isnt this a clause
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by avik.ch » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:17 am
mundasingh123 wrote:(E) As is Auden's
isnt is a verb
isnt this a clause
The usage of "as" and "like" is interchangable in comparison problem, the usage is dependant on construction.

There is a illogical comparison in E as I explained above i.e a possesive noun can only be compared with posessive noun.

Refer OG-12 SC #97, option A is wrong for similar reason (illogical comparison between possesive and non possesive )
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by mundasingh123 » Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:59 am
avik.ch wrote:
mundasingh123 wrote:(E) As is Auden's
isnt is a verb
isnt this a clause
The usage of "as" and "like" is interchangable in comparison problem, the usage is dependant on construction.

There is a illogical comparison in E as I explained above i.e a possesive noun can only be compared with posessive noun.

Refer OG-12 SC #97, option A is wrong for similar reason (illogical comparison between possesive and non possesive )
of X is uqivalent to saying X's
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by mundasingh123 » Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:03 am
avik.ch wrote:
mundasingh123 wrote:(E) As is Auden's
isnt is a verb
isnt this a clause
The usage of "as" and "like" is interchangable in comparison problem, the usage is dependant on construction.

There is a illogical comparison in E as I explained above i.e a possesive noun can only be compared with posessive noun.

Refer OG-12 SC #97, option A is wrong for similar reason (illogical comparison between possesive and non possesive )
option A in OG 12 sc 97 would have been equivalent to option e in this sc , had option A in #97 been tone system of bartok.
here you are comparing language of X with Y's language
there u r comparing tone system of X with Y
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by avik.ch » Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:33 am
mundasingh123 wrote:
avik.ch wrote:
mundasingh123 wrote:(E) As is Auden's
isnt is a verb
isnt this a clause
The usage of "as" and "like" is interchangable in comparison problem, the usage is dependant on construction.

There is a illogical comparison in E as I explained above i.e a possesive noun can only be compared with posessive noun.

Refer OG-12 SC #97, option A is wrong for similar reason (illogical comparison between possesive and non possesive )
option A in OG 12 sc 97 would have been equivalent to option e in this sc , had option A in #97 been tone system of bartok.
here you are comparing language of X with Y's language
there u r comparing tone system of X with Y

#97 - A) unlike schoenberg's tone, bartok... ( so this is wrong )
this would be correct :
- unlike schoenberg's, bartok's tone...
C is correct bacause two noun in non possesive case are compared.

as far as E is concerned it is comparing Auden's language with the langauge of james, so this is illogical comparison and hence incorrect. All the below comparison is correct :
Like Auden, james
like the langauge of Auden, the langauge of James
Like Auden's, james's language

It has nothing to do with the usage of "as" and "like" as they are not the point of elimination here.

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by mundasingh123 » Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:41 am
avik.ch wrote:
mundasingh123 wrote:
avik.ch wrote:
mundasingh123 wrote:(E) As is Auden's
isnt is a verb
isnt this a clause
The usage of "as" and "like" is interchangable in comparison problem, the usage is dependant on construction.

There is a illogical comparison in E as I explained above i.e a possesive noun can only be compared with posessive noun.

Refer OG-12 SC #97, option A is wrong for similar reason (illogical comparison between possesive and non possesive )
option A in OG 12 sc 97 would have been equivalent to option e in this sc , had option A in #97 been tone system of bartok.
here you are comparing language of X with Y's language
there u r comparing tone system of X with Y

#97 - A) unlike schoenberg's tone, bartok... ( so this is wrong )
this would be correct :
- unlike schoenberg's, bartok's tone...
C is correct bacause two noun in non possesive case are compared.

as far as E is concerned it is comparing Auden's language with the langauge of james, so this is illogical comparison and hence incorrect. All the below comparison is correct :
Like Auden, james
like the langauge of Auden, the langauge of James
Like Auden's, james's language

It has nothing to do with the usage of "as" and "like" as they are not the point of elimination here.

Hope this helps
my question was whats wrong with E.
Now my question is whaTS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN saying "James' language " and saying "language of James "
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by avik.ch » Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:53 am
mundasingh123 wrote:
avik.ch wrote:
mundasingh123 wrote:
avik.ch wrote:
mundasingh123 wrote:(E) As is Auden's
isnt is a verb
isnt this a clause
The usage of "as" and "like" is interchangable in comparison problem, the usage is dependant on construction.

There is a illogical comparison in E as I explained above i.e a possesive noun can only be compared with posessive noun.

Refer OG-12 SC #97, option A is wrong for similar reason (illogical comparison between possesive and non possesive )
option A in OG 12 sc 97 would have been equivalent to option e in this sc , had option A in #97 been tone system of bartok.
here you are comparing language of X with Y's language
there u r comparing tone system of X with Y

#97 - A) unlike schoenberg's tone, bartok... ( so this is wrong )
this would be correct :
- unlike schoenberg's, bartok's tone...
C is correct bacause two noun in non possesive case are compared.

as far as E is concerned it is comparing Auden's language with the langauge of james, so this is illogical comparison and hence incorrect. All the below comparison is correct :
Like Auden, james
like the langauge of Auden, the langauge of James
Like Auden's, james's language

It has nothing to do with the usage of "as" and "like" as they are not the point of elimination here.

Hope this helps
my question was whats wrong with E.
Now my question is whaTS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN saying "James' language " and saying "language of James "
ok...i actually got your question wrong. Sorry for that.

As far as meaning is concerned there is no difference. But when we compare two ( or more than two items), the items should be parallel ( logical structure of both the part should be same).

such as :
- possesive case noun can be compared with posessive case noun,
- non possesive case noun can be compared with non posessive case noun
- action can be compared with action
(please note that u can use both compared with/compared to - both are same as far as gmat is concerned)

As X,Y ( X and Y should be parallel)
like X,Y ( X and Y should be parallel)
unike X,y ( X and Y should be parallel)
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