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by sulabh » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:32 am
Unlike ethnographers, ethno historians make systemantic observations, but they also gather data from documentary and oral sources.

(A) Unlike ethnographers, ethno historians make systemantic observations, but they also

(B) Like ethnographers, ethno historians make systemantic observations, and they also

(C) Like ethnographers, ethno historians make systemantic observations, but they also

(D) Unlike ethnographers, ethno historians make systemantic observations, and they also

(E) Unlike ethnographers, ethno historians make systemantic observations, but fail to

I don't have the OA.But thought it is a good question for discussion.So posting it.So lets start

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by g_beatthegmat » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:47 am
I'm for (C).

Using Unlike would mean we're trying to say ethno historians are different than ethnographers. Where as, IMHO, we're trying to establish a similarity to begin with, and then add on to it by saying "but they also..." to add to what they did more than ethnographers.

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by sulabh » Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:34 am
Yup I agree.Its C for me.Anyone with some other thoughts?

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by s_raizada » Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:29 pm
D for me

B, C - changes original meaning of the sentecne
E - changes meaning
A - instead of contrast conjuctor 'but' additive conjuctor 'and' is required

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by senthil » Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:06 pm
I too go with D.

With 'like' and 'but ' is contradictory and moreover 'they ' in that case is ambiguous in reference .

With 'Unlike' and 'and' they clearly refers to the second noun.

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by netigen » Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:57 pm
Ans should be E and the simple reason is because "They" is ambiguous is all the other options.

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by sulabh » Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:32 am
I don't think 'they' is ambigous here.It clearly refers to ethno historians.

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by atlantic » Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:42 am
IMHO C. It's the only option that gives a meaning to the setence. I could also be E, but it lacks 'they'.

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by sulabh » Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:55 am
Common people.Can anyone tell me whats wrong with E??

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by g_beatthegmat » Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:04 am
I see why "they" could be ambiguous, but as I said earlier too, I feel using "Unlike" changes the meaning.

We're trying to establish a similarity and then show the difference. So starting with Like is reqd.

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by sulabh » Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:09 am
Yup I think we need an expert opinion on this !!! Anyone!!

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by gmatinjuly » Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:41 am
Guys my 2 cents....

Unlike implies opposite…so unlike and but don’t go well

So unlike without but will be good
Also implies in addition to making observations they do something else also..

Like shows similarity and exceptipn can be put with a but clause…
(both are similar but ….)

A : Unlike but eliminate combo
B: Like …and they also …no contrast….so also is not needed
E: Unlike but : eliminated
D: Unlike …they do a and b ….(they do a and also b – not required)

C is good ……it shows similarity with an but exception.

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by sulabh » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:38 am
And why should 'Like' be followed by an exception only.I think "Like X,Y does....., and also " isn't incorrect.

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by gmatinjuly » Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:38 am
sulabh didnt meant to say that Like should be followed with an exception but here .....it you have a sentence where u havs following options

LiKE A, B DOES SOMETHING AND ALSO .......
LIKE A, B DOES SOMETHING , BUT ALSO DOES SOMETHING MORE.....

now i feel BUT and also implies something additional ...

However also is not required in first sentence it is redundant....

Sorry not english is not my forte :) but just trying to explain :P

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by g_beatthegmat » Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:13 pm
Experts please help :!: