Is x > k?

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by prateek_guy2004 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:59 pm
Stuart Kovinsky wrote:
Nijeesh wrote:Is x > k?

(1) 2^x "¢ 2^k = 4

(2) 9^x "¢ 3^k = 81
Step 1: Analyze the Problem

We see "is", we think "yes/no question: if I can answer with a definite yes or definite no, sufficient; if I answer with a maybe or sometimes or not sure, insufficient".

What do I know? Absolutely nothing! We have 2 variables and 0 equations, so 2 equations would be nice.

Step 2: Evaluate the Statements

(1) 2^x * 2^k = 4

Using the rules of exponents, we now know that:

2^(x+k) = 2^2

so:

x + k = 2

No clue which one is bigger, so insufficient. Eliminate A and D.

(2) 9^x * 3^k = 81

By the same process as above, we know that:

(3^2)^x * 3^k = 3^4

3^2x * 3^k = 3^4

3^(2x + k) = 3^4

2x + k = 4

Again, no clue which one is bigger, so insufficient. Eliminate B.

Together:

2 equations, 2 unknowns, we can solve for x and k: sufficient. Choose C.

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This question is a great illustration of the power of the "number of equations for number of unknowns" rule; the better you understand and apply that rule, the less math you'll have to do.

For example, if on this question we quickly realized that each statement would give us one distinct linear equation, and that each equation contained our two variables (and no others), we could have gone directly to "C" without actually solving each statement.
Excellent approach Stuart.....I somehow get confused in DS but yeah a right approach eill help..

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by prashant misra » Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:29 pm
yippee i did the question right.answer choice C is right but again i had to solve for it which took minutes

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by parul9 » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:20 am
C!!

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by suk123 » Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:08 pm
Well tgou008's method made more sense to me, perhaps its a bit more intuitive for guys (like me) who are not so good in maths. But thanks guys now we know two methods of solving such questions.

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by ArunangsuSahu » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:12 am
(C)

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by him1985 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:19 am
C is correct answer....
Good question.. :)
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by AvishekShaw » Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:13 am
It has to be C

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by mba404 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:26 am
(C)

Q: X > K ?

1 alone:
2^X * 2^K = 4
=>2^(X+K> = 2^2
=> X+K = 2 (NOT SUFFICIENT) - cross out AD
2 alone:
9^x * 3^K = 81
(3^2)^x * 3^K = 3^4
3^(2x) * 3^K = 3^4
3^(2x+K) = 3^4
2x+K = 4 (NOT SUFFICIENT) - cross out B
1&2
X+K = 2
2X+K = 4 (2 equations , 2 variable - solvable) (SUFFICIENT) --> C

I just use AD/BCD approach. Never mind if you don't use the same.


But, while typing this I had to shift my finger between SHIFT and normal a lot. Is there any easy way in BTG forum to represent 'To the power'? Excuse me if I am spoiling the thread with different question.

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by mehaksal » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:19 am
how abt if i go listing down all the cases, and find the common case of k=0, x=2 in both, and thus answer C, does this method seem okay??

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by spaniard » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:20 pm
But why aren't we considering negative integers as powers. Then the answer would point to E I believe.

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by Brent@GMATPrepNow » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:02 am
spaniard wrote:But why aren't we considering negative integers as powers. Then the answer would point to E I believe.
We're not discounting negative numbers.
Once we get to the point where we have two equations (x + k = 2 and 2x + k = 4) it may very well be the case that there are some negative values involved. However, that part is irrelevant. We know that we can solve this system of equations for x and k, at which point we can certainly answer the target question (Is x > k?). That's all that matters here.

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by rajeshsinghgmat » Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:31 pm
C the answer

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by ritzzzr » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:41 am
Together they are sufficient

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by paresh_patil » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:19 am
Answer : C

Statement 1:
2^x*2^k=4
i.e. x+k=2
here, x=1 k=1
x=2 k=0
x=-2 k=4 etc.. so we cannot ascertain if x>k; therefore not sufficient

Statement 2:
9^x*3^k=81
2x+k=4.. not sufficient

Combine Statement 1 & 2: we have 2 equations x+k=2 and 2x+k=4.. sufficient as we have 2 variables and 2 equations.

therefore answer: C

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by petrifiedbutstanding » Mon May 20, 2013 8:24 am
tgou008 wrote:I got to C, but used a different technique; testing numbers.

Is X>K? = Y/N question

(1) 2^x.2^k = 4

Possible value combinations for x & k that total to four include:
x = 1, k = 1. Here x = k
x = 0, k = 2. Here x < k
x = 2, k = 0 . Here x > k

As there are multiple possibilities for X>K, we can eliminate answers A and D.

(2) 9^x.3^k = 81

Possible value combinations for x & k that total to 81 include:
x = 2, k = 0. Here x > k
x = 0, k = 4. Here x < k
x = 1, k = 2 . Here x < k

Once again there are multiple possibilities for X>K, so we can eliminate B. Must now choose between C and E.

For it to be C, there must be 1 X vs K combination that is common across both (1) and (2). We can see that there is, the only combination common across both (1) and (2) is x= 2, k=0, which is sufficient as we can now see that x > k.

Therefore answer = C

That took me ~2mins to do. Not sure whether this or the other approach is quicker. What level difficultly would you say this question is?

Thanks
I used this technique too. Worked out in less than 2 minutes.