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by bblast » Sat May 28, 2011 10:51 pm
A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published, reveals that Twain provided financial assistance to one of the first Black students at Yale Law School.

(A) A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published,

(B) A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn,

(C) A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year that The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was published,

(D) Mark Twain wrote a letter in the same year as he published The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn that

(E) Mark Twain wrote a letter in the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn that
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by irock » Sat May 28, 2011 11:44 pm
A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year that (= in which) The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was published.
As per grammar rules 'that' may be used as an adverbial accusative i.e. That = on which, in which, at which.
For example : I remember the day that (=on which) he came.

Choice C, the best answer, is grammatically correct and its meaning is clear and precise.
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by sameerballani » Sun May 29, 2011 2:19 am
bblast wrote:A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published, reveals that Twain provided financial assistance to one of the first Black students at Yale Law School.

(A) A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published,

(B) A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn,

(C) A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year that The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was published,

(D) Mark Twain wrote a letter in the same year as he published The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn that

(E) Mark Twain wrote a letter in the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn that
IMO C, what's the correct answer.

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by bblast » Sun May 29, 2011 6:19 am
ya its C, but cant understand Y as is wrong here,

explanation says, "that" much be used to introduce a relative clause. Now whats a relative clause ?

i know abt restrictive and non restrictive clause involving that nd which but this is new.
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by sameerballani » Sun May 29, 2011 6:49 am
sameerballani wrote:
bblast wrote:A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published, reveals that Twain provided financial assistance to one of the first Black students at Yale Law School.

(A) A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published,

(B) A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn,

(C) A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year that The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was published,

(D) Mark Twain wrote a letter in the same year as he published The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn that

(E) Mark Twain wrote a letter in the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn that
IMO C, what's the correct answer.

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In case of AS, we need to make sure 2 things are comparable.

Option A) the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published
were wrongly used with singular The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn

For Comparison. See things in bold
Option B) the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
Wrong Comparison.
Option D) the same year as he published The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
Option E) the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn

In option C, We use relative clause ie. the second part(present in bold) explains/describes/adds to the first part. I think its similar to restrictive clause.
Option C) the same year that The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was published
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by bblast » Sun May 29, 2011 7:59 am
In sum, I think AS is wrong here as its a comparator and not something to introduce a clause ?

Can u think of another example where as would be wrong and that would be correct. Of course not an example involving years as is this one.
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by irock » Sun May 29, 2011 8:34 pm
We use relative clauses to give additional information about something without starting another sentence. By combining sentences with a relative clause, your text becomes more fluent and you can avoid repeating certain words.
The relative clause will follow one of these two patterns:

relative pronoun or adverb + subject + verb

relative pronoun as subject + verb

Ex:
1) Michelle screamed when she saw the spider that dangled from the one clean bathroom towel.
2) I don't like the table that stands in the kitchen.

Here, That = relative pronoun functioning as subject; dangled/stands = verb.
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by S_S » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:32 pm
sameerballani wrote:
sameerballani wrote:
bblast wrote:A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published, reveals that Twain provided financial assistance to one of the first Black students at Yale Law School.

(A) A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published,

(B) A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn,

(C) A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year that The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was published,

(D) Mark Twain wrote a letter in the same year as he published The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn that

(E) Mark Twain wrote a letter in the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn that
IMO C, what's the correct answer.

Thanks!!
In case of AS, we need to make sure 2 things are comparable.

Option A) the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published
were wrongly used with singular The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn

For Comparison. See things in bold
Option B) the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
Wrong Comparison.
Option D) the same year as he published The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
Option E) the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn

In option C, We use relative clause ie. the second part(present in bold) explains/describes/adds to the first part. I think its similar to restrictive clause.
Option C) the same year that The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was published
Clear, concise. Just what was needed. Thanks a bunch!
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