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by hemant_rajput » Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:02 am
Q17 . A tank in X apartment is full of water is fitted with pumps of equal capacity. Besides it is also fitted with a certain no. of inlet pipes which are always kept open. When tank is full, 10 pumps of equal capacity empty the tank in 12 hrs. , while 15 pumps of the same capacity empty the tank in 6 hrs. In how much time would 25 pump of the same capacity empty the tank, if the tank is initially full?(All the pipes pouring water into the tank are always open)
a. 3
b. 2.5
c. 4
d. 3.5
e. 5.5

[spoiler]oa:d[/spoiler]
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by Tommy Wallach » Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:33 am
Hey Hemant,

Could you please publish the source of these questions you post? I ask because there are so many weird grammatical issues here it's tough to translate.

However:

Let's set the capacity of the tank to 300 (arbitrarily). Then we can use R*T*Workers=Work to make equations

x will be the rate that a pump works, and y will be the rate that the inlet pipes are letting water in.

R * T * Workers = Work

x 12 10 = 300 + 12y (we add 12y, because we have to also pump out 12 hours worth of water from the inlets)
x 6 15 = 300 + 6y

120x = 300 + 12y
90x = 300 + 6y

multiply top equation by 3, bottom equation by 4:

360x = 900 + 36y
360x = 1200 + 24y
0 = -300 + 12y
300 = 12y
y = 25

solve for x:

90x = 300 + 6(25)
90x = 450
x = 5

Now to answer the real question:

Rate * Time * # of workers = Work
5 t 25 300 + 25t (we add 25t, because the inlet pipes let in 25gallons per hour)

125t = 300 + 25t
100t = 300

t = 3

I know you wrote the OA was (D), but I'm getting (A). I can promise this methodology is correct, but perhaps I made an arithmetical mistake somewhere? Or the OA is wrong? Anyone is welcome to scour my work for the error! : )

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by GMATGuruNY » Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:59 pm
hemant_rajput wrote:Q17 . A tank in X apartment is full of water is fitted with pumps of equal capacity. Besides it is also fitted with a certain no. of inlet pipes which are always kept open. When tank is full, 10 pumps of equal capacity empty the tank in 12 hrs. , while 15 pumps of the same capacity empty the tank in 6 hrs. In how much time would 25 pump of the same capacity empty the tank, if the tank is initially full?(All the pipes pouring water into the tank are always open)
a. 3
b. 2.5
c. 4
d. 3.5
e. 5.5

[spoiler]oa:d[/spoiler]
Every hour:
The pumps pump units OUT of the tank.
The inlet pushes units INTO the tank.
When the pumps and the inlet work simultaneously for a certain amount of time, the ENTIRE VOLUME OF THE TANK is removed.
Thus:
Tank volume = total amount PUMPED OUT - total amount PUSHED IN.

Let x = the amount PUSHED IN by the inlet each hour.

Case 1: 10 pumps empty the tank in 12 hrs
In 12 hours:
The amount PUMPED OUT by 10 pumps = r*t = 10*12 = 120.
The amount PUSHED IN by the inlet = 12x.
Thus:
Tank volume = total pumped out - total pushed in = 120 - 12x.

Case 2: 15 pumps empty the tank in 6 hrs
In 6 hours:
The amount PUMPED OUT by 15 pumps = r*t = 15*6 = 90.
The amount PUSHED IN by the inlet = 6x.
Thus:
Tank volume = total pumped out - total pumped in = 90 - 6x.

Since the volume is the same in each case, we get:
120 - 12x = 90 - 6x
30 = 6x
x = 5.

Thus:
Each hour, the amount PUSHED IN by the inlet = 5 units.
Tank volume = 90 - 6x = 90 - 6*5 = 60 units.

When 25 pumps work:
Amount PUMPED OUT by 25 pumps each hour = 25 units.
Amount PUSHED IN by the inlet each hour = 5 units.
Thus:
Net amount removed each hour = 25-5 = 20 units per hour.
Time to empty the tank = w/r = 60/20 = 3 hours.

The correct answer is A.

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by hemant_rajput » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:57 pm
Hi Tommy,

I'm sorry for the grammatical error you see in the question. May be I've made those mistakes while posting question over the forum. Anyways, the original source is "How to Prepare for Quantitative Aptitude for the CAT" by Arun Sharma.

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Really appreciate your efforts for helping me with these question, I know it may be annoying for both of you to solve these questions and I'm sorry for the trouble. Once again Thanks a million to both of you.
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by Tommy Wallach » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:15 pm
Hey Hemant,

I didn't mean to criticize you about grammar; the big issue is that I don't think you should be practicing with questions that have grammatical errors in them. It's simply bad practice, as grammar is so big on the GMAT. There are PLENTY of great sources that won't have these errors. In general, I recommend sticking with publications made in English-speaking countries, mostly from the big well-known companies and GMAC themselves. This way, you avoid any possibility of major and systemic grammatical errors in the writing.

Hope that helps!

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by hemant_rajput » Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:16 pm
Tommy Wallach wrote:Hey Hemant,

I didn't mean to criticize you about grammar; the big issue is that I don't think you should be practicing with questions that have grammatical errors in them. It's simply bad practice, as grammar is so big on the GMAT. There are PLENTY of great sources that won't have these errors. In general, I recommend sticking with publications made in English-speaking countries, mostly from the big well-known companies and GMAC themselves. This way, you avoid any possibility of major and systemic grammatical errors in the writing.

Hope that helps!

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Hi Tommy,

I know you mean well. I'll keep this thing in mind. I practice from this book because it level is better than other books available in market.I'll try to follow books as you recommended. Once again thank you for your help.

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