BREAKING: Target Test Prep releases Brand New 2026 On Demand GMAT prep course

Redeem

MGMAT test

This topic has expert replies
Post new topic Locked
Previous Topic Next Topic
User avatar
Legendary Member
Posts: 1560
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:38 am
Thanked: 137 times
Followed by:5 members

MGMAT test

by thephoenix » Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:40 am
Recent studies suggest that an intake of vitamin E in excess of that found naturally in a balanced diet may actually increase the risk of developing certain illnesses, despite the claims of thousands of people who swear by it as a dietary supplement.
a) Recent studies suggest that an intake of vitamin E in excess of that found naturally in a balanced diet may actually increase the risk of developing certain illnesses
b) Recent studies suggest that taking vitamin E in excess of that found naturally in a balanced diet actually increases the risk of developing certain illnesses
c) Certain illnesses may be at a higher risk of development if vitamin E is taken in excess of a balanced diet, according to recent studies
d) According to recent studies, the intake of vitamin E, if in excess of that found naturally in a balanced diet, may actually increase developing certain illnesses
e) Vitamin E, recent studies suggest, if in excess of that found naturally in a balanced diet, may actually increase the development risk of certain illnesses

4 mnths back when i attempeted this question i guessed it wrong
and now when i was dead sure that my choices is 100% correct , i found out that i opted the same ans
luks as if what ever i have studied in 4 mnths is wasted
so guys help me out with reasons
plain IMO's are not accepted
hope to learn a new rule
source MGMAT test
Top
Source: — Sentence Correction |
GMAT Instructor
Posts: 1578
Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 8:02 am
Thanked: 128 times
Followed by:34 members
GMAT Score:760

by Osirus@VeritasPrep » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:12 am
A- Even though this is unnecessarily wordy, since B changes the meaning, I would choose this one.

B- They change the meaning by taking away the "may". Otherwise, this would probably be the preferred answer.

C- This is just awkward

D - may increase what? something is lacking in this choice, discard it.

E- this needs a verb in the first part of the sentence. As it stands, its a fragment
Top
User avatar
Legendary Member
Posts: 1560
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:38 am
Thanked: 137 times
Followed by:5 members

by thephoenix » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:38 am
osirus0830 wrote:A- Even though this is unnecessarily wordy, since B changes the meaning, I would choose this one.

B- They change the meaning by taking away the "may". Otherwise, this would probably be the preferred answer.

C- This is just awkward

D - may increase what? something is lacking in this choice, discard it.

E- this needs a verb in the first part of the sentence. As it stands, its a fragment
okay agreed
leave apart other choices how do u justify the use of increase in A vs increases in B
wht subject these verbs are actually reffering and are they llel to that sub
y elimination is not based on the difference of the case(singulur or plural) of these verbs
your explanation is inline with OE but i am hung on these issue
hope conceptually i am not way out!!!!
Top
GMAT Instructor
Posts: 1578
Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 8:02 am
Thanked: 128 times
Followed by:34 members
GMAT Score:760

by Osirus@VeritasPrep » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:48 am
I remember reading in the MGMAT SC guide that helping verbs like "may" don't necessarily follow the subject verb agreement rules. I don't have the book on me, so someone else please chime in on this.
Top
Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Posts: 126
Joined: Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:53 am
Location: Bangalore, India
Thanked: 1 times

by soumyopriyosaha » Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:30 am
The sentence uses the subjunctive form i.e. it expresses something that may or may not be true. In these cases we use the plural verb.
For e.g.
If I were rich, I would donate money to charity.

Hope this helps.
Top
Newbie | Next Rank: 10 Posts
Posts: 3
Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:07 am

by Rush_1982 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:17 pm
What is the OA? I choose A
Top
Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Posts: 266
Joined: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:46 pm
Thanked: 8 times
GMAT Score:690

by pkw209 » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:06 pm
I'll go A.

soumyopriyosaha hit it right on the head.

"Suggest" implies the subjunctive so the "may" in A is needed.
Top

GMAT/MBA Expert

User avatar
GMAT Instructor
Posts: 3380
Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:20 am
Thanked: 2256 times
Followed by:1535 members
GMAT Score:800

by lunarpower » Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:15 pm
thephoenix wrote:
leave apart other choices how do u justify the use of increase in A vs increases in B
this is a specious comparison; "increase" is not the entire verb in choice (a).
the verb is "may increase".

when you have verbs including helping verbs -- such as "may increase", "might increase", "will increase", "would increase", etc. -- you're not conjugating the verb anymore; you just slap the infinitive form onto the helping verb.
probably the easiest example i can concoct: "is" is singular, and "are" is plural; however, you write "may be", not "may is" or "may are".
Ron has been teaching various standardized tests for 20 years.

--

Pueden hacerle preguntas a Ron en castellano
Potete chiedere domande a Ron in italiano
On peut poser des questions à Ron en français
Voit esittää kysymyksiä Ron:lle myös suomeksi

--

Quand on se sent bien dans un vêtement, tout peut arriver. Un bon vêtement, c'est un passeport pour le bonheur.

Yves Saint-Laurent

--

Learn more about ron
Top
User avatar
Legendary Member
Posts: 1560
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:38 am
Thanked: 137 times
Followed by:5 members

by thephoenix » Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:52 pm
lunarpower wrote:
thephoenix wrote:
leave apart other choices how do u justify the use of increase in A vs increases in B
this is a specious comparison; "increase" is not the entire verb in choice (a).
the verb is "may increase".

when you have verbs including helping verbs -- such as "may increase", "might increase", "will increase", "would increase", etc. -- you're not conjugating the verb anymore; you just slap the infinitive form onto the helping verb.
probably the easiest example i can concoct: "is" is singular, and "are" is plural; however, you write "may be", not "may is" or "may are".
thanks ron

and for others the OA is A
Top
Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Posts: 221
Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:24 pm
Thanked: 2 times

by mgmt_gmat » Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:16 am
Hi Ron...

What is the problem with choice D.
Top
User avatar
Legendary Member
Posts: 526
Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:47 pm
Location: India
Thanked: 68 times
GMAT Score:680

by harshavardhanc » Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:55 am
d) ........., may actually increase developing certain illnesses
remember what the author wants to convey : "recent studies indicate that additional intake increases risk of developing illnesses "

D changes the meaning : "may actually increase developing certain illnesses"
Moreover, "increase developing certain......" the use of gerund is incorrect.

Ron, please correct me if I'm wrong. ( BTW, nice to see you after long time! :) )
Regards,
Harsha
Top
User avatar
Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts
Posts: 89
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:55 am
Thanked: 6 times

by VikingWarrior » Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:58 am
Honestly, I dont think this is a good question.
My answer would be B. I would have ruled out A for redundancy/wordiness.
In another example (I think from OG) we ruled out options including "attempt to try"
in this case it is similar...
1. Studies "suggest" this as posssible
2. Studies suggest this may be possible
these are same to me

Had B said:
1. Studies conclude that... or
2. According to studies this "would happen"
then I would have ruled this out. All in all I think this is a Q worth ignoring as far as A vs B goes. As long as one can boil down to A & B I think one is ok for GMAT standard Qs
Top
Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts
Posts: 39
Joined: Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:29 pm
Thanked: 1 times
Followed by:1 members

by sallespadua » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:01 pm
I would choose B also. IMO "may" makes the sentence wordy. I disagree that B changes the meaning.
Top

GMAT/MBA Expert

User avatar
GMAT Instructor
Posts: 3380
Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:20 am
Thanked: 2256 times
Followed by:1535 members
GMAT Score:800

by lunarpower » Fri May 28, 2010 3:35 am
harshavardhanc wrote:
d) ........., may actually increase developing certain illnesses
remember what the author wants to convey : "recent studies indicate that additional intake increases risk of developing illnesses "

D changes the meaning : "may actually increase developing certain illnesses"
Moreover, "increase developing certain......" the use of gerund is incorrect.

Ron, please correct me if I'm wrong. ( BTW, nice to see you after long time! :) )
this evaluation is accurate, on both counts.
Ron has been teaching various standardized tests for 20 years.

--

Pueden hacerle preguntas a Ron en castellano
Potete chiedere domande a Ron in italiano
On peut poser des questions à Ron en français
Voit esittää kysymyksiä Ron:lle myös suomeksi

--

Quand on se sent bien dans un vêtement, tout peut arriver. Un bon vêtement, c'est un passeport pour le bonheur.

Yves Saint-Laurent

--

Learn more about ron
Top

GMAT/MBA Expert

User avatar
GMAT Instructor
Posts: 3380
Joined: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:20 am
Thanked: 2256 times
Followed by:1535 members
GMAT Score:800

by lunarpower » Fri May 28, 2010 3:36 am
In another example (I think from OG) we ruled out options including "attempt to try"
in this case it is similar...
1. Studies "suggest" this as posssible
2. Studies suggest this may be possible
these are same to me
this is a very good point, actually -- we should purge "may" from the correct answer, as, yes, that meaning is already subsumed under the meaning of "suggest".

we'll update the question in the next few weeks. thanks!
Ron has been teaching various standardized tests for 20 years.

--

Pueden hacerle preguntas a Ron en castellano
Potete chiedere domande a Ron in italiano
On peut poser des questions à Ron en français
Voit esittää kysymyksiä Ron:lle myös suomeksi

--

Quand on se sent bien dans un vêtement, tout peut arriver. Un bon vêtement, c'est un passeport pour le bonheur.

Yves Saint-Laurent

--

Learn more about ron
Top
Post new topic Locked