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Here the OA = E....which contains being....
but in general we read that being is in general wrong in GMAT...
Can you please tell how to find out when being is right and when being is wrong ?
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as with most of the issues that come up a lot on the forum, this is a complicated issue.goelmohit2002 wrote:Thanks a lot Ron !!!
Here the OA = E....which contains being....
but in general we read that being is in general wrong in GMAT...
Can you please tell how to find out when being is right and when being is wrong ?
here are a few pointers, though definitely short of a full treatment:
* in general, "being NOUN", "being ADJ" or "being a/an NOUN" will usually be suspicious.
- an important exception occurs when this sort of phrase is the actual SUBJECT of the sentence (as it is in this problem). i.e., if "being committed" is the subject, then there's really no other effective way to voice that idea.
- if this sort of thing is a MODIFIER, it will essentially never be correct, since in that case you can merely remove "being" and the modifier will still make sense.
for instance, if you have "being committed to his job, bob...", then that can be reduced to "committed to his job, bob..."
* "being VERBed" - i.e., PASSIVE VOICE construction - will be correct a lot of the time.
that's a good start.
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make sure you read the rest of the thread before doing this.martin.jonson007 wrote:IMO C
this is an official problem whose answer is (e).
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I knw ans is E and You hav given all proof...!lunarpower wrote:make sure you read the rest of the thread before doing this.martin.jonson007 wrote:IMO C
this is an official problem whose answer is (e).
but still i have posted my ans , wch i find rignt acc to me so that somebody cud correct me... with 2-3 lines info , wch is to th point...
Too much info makes me crazy... neither i can digest too much info nor am patient enough to keep reading.. so sorry...
'Brevity' is wat i look for...
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i posted some explanations for the answer choices here:
https://www.beatthegmat.com/heavy-commit ... tml#166275
these explanations are not terribly long; give them a shot.
question -- if you don't like reading even a few lines, how do you deal with the reading comprehension passages?
some of them are sixty to seventy lines long!
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in any case, in sentence correction, most explanations giving a decently complete treatment of a topic are going to be longer than a couple of lines.
https://www.beatthegmat.com/heavy-commit ... tml#166275
these explanations are not terribly long; give them a shot.
if you are serious about this, then you need to forget about the gmat concepts themselves for a while, and take steps to rectify this issue -- perhaps check out some resources on attention (there is much helpful information on the internet), or try exercises in which you gradually absorb larger and larger amounts of text.martin.jonson007 wrote:Too much info makes me crazy... neither i can digest too much info nor am patient enough to keep reading.. so sorry...
question -- if you don't like reading even a few lines, how do you deal with the reading comprehension passages?
some of them are sixty to seventy lines long!
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Dear Ron,lunarpower wrote:i posted some explanations for the answer choices here:
https://www.beatthegmat.com/heavy-commit ... tml#166275
these explanations are not terribly long; give them a shot.
if you are serious about this, then you need to forget about the gmat concepts themselves for a while, and take steps to rectify this issue -- perhaps check out some resources on attention (there is much helpful information on the internet), or try exercises in which you gradually absorb larger and larger amounts of text.martin.jonson007 wrote:Too much info makes me crazy... neither i can digest too much info nor am patient enough to keep reading.. so sorry...
question -- if you don't like reading even a few lines, how do you deal with the reading comprehension passages?
some of them are sixty to seventy lines long!
in any case, in sentence correction, most explanations giving a decently complete treatment of a topic are going to be longer than a couple of lines.
Believe me , whenever i see yr post, i immediately put that thread on FAVORITE so that i can look at them later on...!
all yr post are PAR EXCELLENCE...!
but it take too much time to read and understand tham.. as t hey are very very depthful...!
i have decided that i will do 30-35 ques per day.. but if i see yr post then very less time left for me for other threads...
Again.. want to write more but TIME IS LIMITED.. so skipping here...
but truly , presence of EXPERTS PPL like YOU make Beatthegmat.com different(better) from GMATCLUB.COM etc...
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martin, thanks for the kind words.
in general, i try to give decently complete explanations of the concepts behind these questions. as language is a human construction that has constantly evolved, it's extremely rare for linguistic constructions to be incredibly simple and straightforward -- there are usually exceptions, nuances, and irregularities. if my posts are long, it's mostly because i try to account for most of these important exceptions.
in general, i try to give decently complete explanations of the concepts behind these questions. as language is a human construction that has constantly evolved, it's extremely rare for linguistic constructions to be incredibly simple and straightforward -- there are usually exceptions, nuances, and irregularities. if my posts are long, it's mostly because i try to account for most of these important exceptions.
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well, you clearly can't just OMIT "being", i.e., say "heavily committed" by itself. if you try to do that, then the sentence won't have a subject at all.lunarpower wrote:i can vouch that this is an official GMATPREP problem.
YES.Uri wrote:"it" seems ambiguous: commitment or course of action?Heavy commitment by an executive to a course of action, especially if it has worked well in the past, makes it likely to miss signs of incipient trouble or misinterpret them when they do appear.
"it" is ambiguous here, for exactly the reasons you have outlined.
by the way, this is PRECISELY the reason why they chose to write "being heavily committed", rather than "heavy commitment", in the correct answer. see the discussion of that answer, below.
yeah.Changes the meaning. The fault here is transferred from commitment to the executive!An executive who is heavily committed to a course of action, especially one that worked well in the past, makes missing signs of incipient trouble or misinterpreting ones likely when they do appear.
there are also other problems, such as "misinterpreting ones", as well as the general ridiculous sloppiness of this sentence.
it's more the pronoun issue.I think there is modifier issue in this choiceAn executive who is heavily committed to a course of action is likely to miss or misinterpret signs of incipient trouble when they do appear, especially if it has worked well in the past.
the best way i can explain it to non-native speakers of english is that "it" could potentially stand for "incipient trouble" and is thus ambiguous (especially in light of the fact that "incipient trouble" is WAY WAY closer to "it" than is the properly intended antecedent).
to any native english speakers reading this post, you should reflexively find ugliness in this pronoun. in other words, you just won't know what "it" is supposed to stand for, unless you go back through the sentence at least one more time and hunt for an antecedent.
you missed what is easily the most important problem with this part: the blatant lack of parallelism between "miss" and "misinterpreting".the apostrophe is perhaps not needed. Also concerned with "being"Executives� being heavily committed to a course of action, especially if it has worked well in the past, makes them likely to miss signs of incipient trouble or misinterpreting them when they do appear.
these two ideas are clearly parallel, and they're presented in tandem, so they have to have parallel grammatical structures.
once again worried with "being". don't think it is necessary here.Being heavily committed to a course of action, especially one that has worked well in the past, is likely to make an executive miss signs of incipient trouble or misinterpret them when they do appear.
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see next post for details on why (e) is the best choice here.[/quote]
Ron,
Say, for instance we didn't have option E in this question, wouldn't option A be correct?
In other words, though we have slight ambiguity between 'heavy commitment' and 'course of action' as an antecedent of 'it' , can't we assume that 'it' refers to 'course of action' on grounds of proximity? Pl. suggest......
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Hi, can't we say that 'it' refers to 'heavy commitment' as 'heavy commitment ' and 'it' both are used as 'subject' of 2 different fragments.... pl. reply........lunarpower wrote:i can vouch that this is an official GMATPREP problem.
YES.Uri wrote:"it" seems ambiguous: commitment or course of action?Heavy commitment by an executive to a course of action, especially if it has worked well in the past, makes it likely to miss signs of incipient trouble or misinterpret them when they do appear.
"it" is ambiguous here, for exactly the reasons you have outlined.
by the way, this is PRECISELY the reason why they chose to write "being heavily committed", rather than "heavy commitment", in the correct answer. see the discussion of that answer, below.
yeah.Changes the meaning. The fault here is transferred from commitment to the executive!An executive who is heavily committed to a course of action, especially one that worked well in the past, makes missing signs of incipient trouble or misinterpreting ones likely when they do appear.
there are also other problems, such as "misinterpreting ones", as well as the general ridiculous sloppiness of this sentence.
it's more the pronoun issue.I think there is modifier issue in this choiceAn executive who is heavily committed to a course of action is likely to miss or misinterpret signs of incipient trouble when they do appear, especially if it has worked well in the past.
the best way i can explain it to non-native speakers of english is that "it" could potentially stand for "incipient trouble" and is thus ambiguous (especially in light of the fact that "incipient trouble" is WAY WAY closer to "it" than is the properly intended antecedent).
to any native english speakers reading this post, you should reflexively find ugliness in this pronoun. in other words, you just won't know what "it" is supposed to stand for, unless you go back through the sentence at least one more time and hunt for an antecedent.
you missed what is easily the most important problem with this part: the blatant lack of parallelism between "miss" and "misinterpreting".the apostrophe is perhaps not needed. Also concerned with "being"Executives� being heavily committed to a course of action, especially if it has worked well in the past, makes them likely to miss signs of incipient trouble or misinterpreting them when they do appear.
these two ideas are clearly parallel, and they're presented in tandem, so they have to have parallel grammatical structures.
once again worried with "being". don't think it is necessary here.[/quote]Being heavily committed to a course of action, especially one that has worked well in the past, is likely to make an executive miss signs of incipient trouble or misinterpret them when they do appear.
well, you clearly can't just OMIT "being", i.e., say "heavily committed" by itself. if you try to do that, then the sentence won't have a subject at all.
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well, you clearly can't just OMIT "being", i.e., say "heavily committed" by itself. if you try to do that, then the sentence won't have a subject at all.lunarpower wrote:i can vouch that this is an official GMATPREP problem.
YES.Uri wrote:"it" seems ambiguous: commitment or course of action?Heavy commitment by an executive to a course of action, especially if it has worked well in the past, makes it likely to miss signs of incipient trouble or misinterpret them when they do appear.
"it" is ambiguous here, for exactly the reasons you have outlined.
by the way, this is PRECISELY the reason why they chose to write "being heavily committed", rather than "heavy commitment", in the correct answer. see the discussion of that answer, below.
Again Ron, should not the second 'it' be in the form: makes it likely for him to......... Pl. respond....
yeah.Changes the meaning. The fault here is transferred from commitment to the executive!An executive who is heavily committed to a course of action, especially one that worked well in the past, makes missing signs of incipient trouble or misinterpreting ones likely when they do appear.
there are also other problems, such as "misinterpreting ones", as well as the general ridiculous sloppiness of this sentence.
it's more the pronoun issue.I think there is modifier issue in this choiceAn executive who is heavily committed to a course of action is likely to miss or misinterpret signs of incipient trouble when they do appear, especially if it has worked well in the past.
the best way i can explain it to non-native speakers of english is that "it" could potentially stand for "incipient trouble" and is thus ambiguous (especially in light of the fact that "incipient trouble" is WAY WAY closer to "it" than is the properly intended antecedent).
to any native english speakers reading this post, you should reflexively find ugliness in this pronoun. in other words, you just won't know what "it" is supposed to stand for, unless you go back through the sentence at least one more time and hunt for an antecedent.
you missed what is easily the most important problem with this part: the blatant lack of parallelism between "miss" and "misinterpreting".the apostrophe is perhaps not needed. Also concerned with "being"Executives� being heavily committed to a course of action, especially if it has worked well in the past, makes them likely to miss signs of incipient trouble or misinterpreting them when they do appear.
these two ideas are clearly parallel, and they're presented in tandem, so they have to have parallel grammatical structures.
once again worried with "being". don't think it is necessary here.Being heavily committed to a course of action, especially one that has worked well in the past, is likely to make an executive miss signs of incipient trouble or misinterpret them when they do appear.
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Hi Ron
Thank u for your explanations
you said C is incorrect because " "it" could potentially stand for "incipient trouble" and is thus ambiguous (especially in light of the fact that "incipient trouble" is WAY WAY closer to "it" than is the properly intended antecedent)."
but by the context of the sentence it is obvious that"it" must refer to "course of action" ,and as far as i know GMAT is lenient on pronoun ambiguity.
Is there another reason why this choice is incorrect
Thank u for your explanations
you said C is incorrect because " "it" could potentially stand for "incipient trouble" and is thus ambiguous (especially in light of the fact that "incipient trouble" is WAY WAY closer to "it" than is the properly intended antecedent)."
but by the context of the sentence it is obvious that"it" must refer to "course of action" ,and as far as i know GMAT is lenient on pronoun ambiguity.
Is there another reason why this choice is incorrect
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There are at least 2 more issues you can look at.Aman Ahuja wrote:Hi Ron
Thank u for your explanations
you said C is incorrect because " "it" could potentially stand for "incipient trouble" and is thus ambiguous (especially in light of the fact that "incipient trouble" is WAY WAY closer to "it" than is the properly intended antecedent)."
but by the context of the sentence it is obvious that"it" must refer to "course of action" ,and as far as i know GMAT is lenient on pronoun ambiguity.
Is there another reason why this choice is incorrect
"¢Â Choice C doesn't convey the intended meaning explicitly.
The intended meaning is that excessive commitment will cause an executive to make certain mistakes. This meaning is expressed explicitly in the correct answer (... is likely to make...).
Choice C, on the other hand, merely states that committed executives are likely to make these mistakes, without stating the causal connection.
(Analogy: If I say Tourists from China are often attacked in country X, there is no indication that the tourists are being targeted specifically because they are Chinese. On the other hand, Simply being Chinese often makes tourists the target of attacks in country X does imply that the tourists are specifically targeted because of their nationality.)
"¢Â Look at the order of the words in the later part of the choice.
The point of the sentence is that the executive will commit one of 2 kinds of errors:
1/ The executive will miss signs of trouble entirely;
2/ The executive will notice the signs of trouble (= the signs will "appear"), but won't interpret them correctly.
I.e., "if they do appear" should come only after #2, not after both possibilities.
In the correct answer, "if they do appear" comes only after #2. In choice C, it comes after both possibilities.
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