Until a few centuries ago, any large bones discovered in the fields or caves of Europe, now known to be large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed to be the remains of giants and were often displayed as curiosities in castles, palaces, town halls, churches, and monasteries.
A. now known to be large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed to be
B. presently known as from large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed as
C. bones now known to be those of large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed to be
D. bones known at present as of large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed as those of
E. currently known as those of large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed to be those of
How to approach this question???
Until a few centuries ago---tough sc
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option A - now known to be large prehistorci animals - incorrectly modifies bones, bones were known as animals, same with option B, commits a glaring mistake both A and B
next assumed to be is the correct idiom -eliminat D
between C and E , C makes a more concise comparision, E -currently known known as - what are curnetly knwn as , bones or Europe? C gives a clear menaing. also E repeats the those.
IMO C
next assumed to be is the correct idiom -eliminat D
between C and E , C makes a more concise comparision, E -currently known known as - what are curnetly knwn as , bones or Europe? C gives a clear menaing. also E repeats the those.
IMO C
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A is wrong as words 'bones' and 'animals' are mismatching.
1)Now what is the correct word : assumed as/ assumed to be ( we can do a 2/3 here)
2)Cut matter in btw commas then.. until few centuries ago... bones (C, D are left)
No... I am out with C/D.. Not able to push further...
1)Now what is the correct word : assumed as/ assumed to be ( we can do a 2/3 here)
2)Cut matter in btw commas then.. until few centuries ago... bones (C, D are left)
No... I am out with C/D.. Not able to push further...
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Known to be or known as ???rohu27 wrote:X was assumed to be Y - correct
D uses - X was assumed of Y
editing post after reviewing the options again , also took input from rohu's post about the correct idiom as i was not sure
IMO C.
A. now known to be large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed to be
B. presently known as from large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed as
C. bones now known to be those of large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed to be
D. bones known at present as of large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed as those of
E. currently known as those of large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed to be those of
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its known to be (verified- MGMAT)AIM GMAT wrote:Known to be or known as ???rohu27 wrote:X was assumed to be Y - correct
D uses - X was assumed of Y
IMO E.
I feel problem with every option .
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Salam rohu-baba... what are you... idiom guru...
Some one recently wrote that we need to write down our own idiom set.. he is very right..
two more added to my database...
Thanks a ton Rohu... I guess atul can present the OA now
Some one recently wrote that we need to write down our own idiom set.. he is very right..
two more added to my database...
Thanks a ton Rohu... I guess atul can present the OA now
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@rohurohu27 wrote:option A - now known to be large prehistorci animals - incorrectly modifies bones, bones were known as animals, same with option B, commits a glaring mistake both A and B
next assumed to be is the correct idiom -eliminat D
between C and E , C makes a more concise comparision, E -currently known known as - what are curnetly knwn as , bones or Europe? C gives a clear menaing. also E repeats the those.
IMO C
In A i understand that the use of Bones as Prehistoric animals is wrong...
But For B u suggest the same reasoning while in B its
Bones Known as from Animals....so i think in this case the meaning is clear and okay...why do u think its wrong like A...???? same is valid for Op E...bones those of animals is clear...
Please justify if m wrong???
I think the only reason to eliminate B is the Idiom error you pointed out...C is the OA and i picked up B because i didn't noticed the idiom..and also in E i think the repeated unnecessary use of pronoun is the error or in other words C is more concise...
Anyways, Thanks for pointing out the Idiom error correctly..
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Also can anyone verify...??
Is "Known as" an INCORRECT IDIOM..?????? or there are some conditions to use Known as and Known to be...just like we use AGREE TO and AGREE WITH in specific cases???
Please clear as its a very common word...thanks
OA is C guys..
Is "Known as" an INCORRECT IDIOM..?????? or there are some conditions to use Known as and Known to be...just like we use AGREE TO and AGREE WITH in specific cases???
Please clear as its a very common word...thanks
OA is C guys..
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Yeah... IMO (C) too
MGMAT: known as (named) vs. known to be (acknowledged as)
Idiom: X was assumed to be Y
MGMAT: known as (named) vs. known to be (acknowledged as)
Idiom: X was assumed to be Y
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Known to --> a fact that people know.
For example:
12 moons are known to orbit Jupiter. (A fact that people know)
Known as --> named as
Mahatma Gandhi is known as Father of Nation.
Since, we are discussing some facts that we know about, so "known to" is correct usage here. B, D and E are incorrect.
"now known to be large prehistoric animals" follows "Europe". It seems that "Bones" were known to be prehistoric animals, signaling awkward meaning. So, A is incorrect.
IMO C
Also, apart for the issues discussed above other choices have more issues in them. The sentence intends to talk about the Bones, which were discovered in some area, were assumed to be remains of large animals.
Until a few centuries ago, any large bones discovered in the fields or caves of Europe, now known to be large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed to be the remains of giants and were often displayed as curiosities in castles, palaces, town halls, churches, and monasteries.
A. now known to be large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed to be INCORRECT as mentioned above.
B. presently known as from large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed as "assumed as" is incorrect here. INCORRECT
C. bones now known to be those of large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed to be
D. bones known at present as of large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed as those of (those of remains --> bones of remains. Also, "assumed as" is incorrect here. INCORRECT)
E. currently known as those of large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed to be those of (those of remains --> bones of remains INCORRECT)
For example:
12 moons are known to orbit Jupiter. (A fact that people know)
Known as --> named as
Mahatma Gandhi is known as Father of Nation.
Since, we are discussing some facts that we know about, so "known to" is correct usage here. B, D and E are incorrect.
"now known to be large prehistoric animals" follows "Europe". It seems that "Bones" were known to be prehistoric animals, signaling awkward meaning. So, A is incorrect.
IMO C
Also, apart for the issues discussed above other choices have more issues in them. The sentence intends to talk about the Bones, which were discovered in some area, were assumed to be remains of large animals.
Until a few centuries ago, any large bones discovered in the fields or caves of Europe, now known to be large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed to be the remains of giants and were often displayed as curiosities in castles, palaces, town halls, churches, and monasteries.
A. now known to be large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed to be INCORRECT as mentioned above.
B. presently known as from large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed as "assumed as" is incorrect here. INCORRECT
C. bones now known to be those of large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed to be
D. bones known at present as of large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed as those of (those of remains --> bones of remains. Also, "assumed as" is incorrect here. INCORRECT)
E. currently known as those of large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed to be those of (those of remains --> bones of remains INCORRECT)
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Thanks a lot MAAJ and Singh for explaining the differences b/w Known as and Known to...it really helped...
Also, Singh
"Those of remains" means "Bones of remains"...its really good to see this error you pointed out...thanks..keep posting
Also, Singh
"Those of remains" means "Bones of remains"...its really good to see this error you pointed out...thanks..keep posting
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as per MGMAT known as is named as.atulmangal wrote:Also can anyone verify...??
Is "Known as" an INCORRECT IDIOM..?????? or there are some conditions to use Known as and Known to be...just like we use AGREE TO and AGREE WITH in specific cases???
Please clear as its a very common word...thanks
OA is C guys..
so B would imply bones are known as animals.
i had a problem in B that presnetly known as from large prehistoric animals, - wht does this modify? bones? its not clear. but as we see we have more reasons to eliminate B.
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lovely error this onesingh181 wrote:E. currently known as those of large prehistoric animals, were usually assumed to be those of (those of remains --> bones of remains INCORRECT)