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by rishi raj » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:42 am
vikram4689 wrote:Thanks Neo, can you please give one example for SC as well. May your example will be turning point for me in SC (as it was in CR).
GMAT SC is all about application of rules and understanding the meaning. Follow the same old thing-Read the options vertically, understand the meaning completely. Also watch out for those trigger words/phrases that will indicate whether there's a modifier or a parallelism error. If you do all this , SC should be your baby :)

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by neodante » Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:55 am
rishi raj wrote: GMAT SC is all about application of rules and understanding the meaning. Follow the same old thing-Read the options vertically, understand the meaning completely. Also watch out for those trigger words/phrases that will indicate whether there's a modifier or a parallelism error. If you do all this , SC should be your baby :)
Good advice from rishi. Learning SC or for that matter any other thing in GMAT requires four things-knowing the rules, practicing questions testing you on the rule,doing a thorough analysis of all the questions and lastly keeping a log of all the questions that you get right or wrong

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by vikram4689 » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:04 am
Hey Neo & Rishi,
remember me... :) i would like to thank you again for the invaluable discussion that we had sometime back. since then i have followed your advice - recognized patterns on CR for about a week and then did mgmat sc 4th ed. thoroughly. When i was preparing those sections individually, i got almost every question correct on each section with proper reasoning ,and i prepared notes on for each section. i finished SC today only and started revising notes on CR, RC & SC. my new problem is that i don't have same amount of confidence and i am feeling that i might not able to achieve same hit rate on any of the section.

Did you feel anything like that when you were preparing, how did you cope up or any other advice.

Your advices have been helping me till now and i am sure they will keep guiding me till THE day :)
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by neodante » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:20 am
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Why do you feel that your hit rate will be not good ? is it based on some evidence or is it fear ? If it is fear, then let me tell you 90% times what we fear never actually comes true. We do go through lows but as a fighter we have to bounce back harder. Just stay in a positive frame of mind and you should do well. How much time do you have for your GMAT ?

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by vikram4689 » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:29 am
thanks for motivating me. i have not scheduled gmat yet. i will do so once i start getting consistent good scores on verbal. since i have finished preparation, i will give mock test this weekend and try to give at least one gmat mock per week from now on.
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by neodante » Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:19 pm
That sounds good. All the best. Do keep us updated and post here if you any issues. We'll try to help ya out

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by sandysai » Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:28 am
Hi All,

My quant score on gmat prep fluctuates from 44-47.is there a way i can fix it. what is the strategy did you follow to get these high scores in quant.

Im sure after 46 + its gets more concept tested, i did the stratergy guides and Og, can you please suggest how did you'll improve and recognise the traps seen at high end questions

I plan to nail each topic saperately, for eg say percentages,Is there any location where questions are grouped as per each concept tested? I feel right now In OG(S) they all are scattered and there are very few patterns per topic. is there any way to get a comprehensive view of all related ways a specific math concept could be tested in GMAT ( atleast as closely as it could be).

Any such grouping closely related to GMAT style will help. Please feel free to suggest what can be done to improve my math score .

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by megadeth » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:04 pm
sandysai,
To reach high quant scores ,you should actually try to think of doing a question in multiple ways. The more the different your approaches of doing a question, the more agile you'll become on the test when you will see a new question.

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by vikram4689 » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:16 pm
neodante wrote:That sounds good. All the best. Do keep us updated and post here if you any issues. We'll try to help ya out
Thanks Mate :)
I gave a knewton practice test and scored 730(Q46,V45) but i am *not* satisfied because a) my target is at least 770 b) i scored worst ever on quant as my usual score is Q50. I am happy that i have improved on verbal and a lot of credit goes to you. You have guided me whenever i felt astray on any of my strategies. I have identified mistakes that i made and will be working on them. However, i have few queries before i work on improving myself:

1) Analyzing the results of test, i saw that i got 1 weaken & 1 paradox question wrong. Now, i don't know what this means for me. Earlier when i was scoring 680, too many incorrect weaken questions meant that i needed to improve my strategy for solving weaken question. Please help me understand what these 2 wrong questions mean for me and what should i do to improve.

2) one problem that i successfully identified is that as i score more correct, i get more longer, difficult passages and i took too long (5 min) to read them. which habits should i incorporate to get used to those convoluted passages that i will be encountering on my way to 770

3) On RC questions, irrespective of difficulty level of passage, I tend to move Back-Forth among options. Though i get them correct in the end but i want to stop myself from going Back-Forth because doing so will help me reduce time for answering RC question.

4) I see that although i got almost equal number of incorrect on DS and PS, i generally took more time on DS question (irrespective of correct/incorrect). I mean my average time for DS is greater than average time for PS. any strategy for reducing taking too much time on DS

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by neodante » Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:55 am
1. Getting 1 question wrong each of Weaken and Explain a paradox doesn't necessarily mean that you are weak at that .It is not a pattern; just a one time instance so don't bother much
2. Practice is the only thing to improve on RC. Nothing else can help you understand those convoluted passages
3.Do you try to predict the answer in some questions like global and inference questions ?
4. DS questions usually take longer than PS questions so aint much of a concern unless you are taking substantially longer time

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by puritan » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:36 am
Great tips for CR neodante. Do you have any such tips for RC. I am facing a lot of difficulty in Inference and function questions. What was your strategy for function questions ?

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by neodante » Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:04 am
puritan wrote:Great tips for CR neodante. Do you have any such tips for RC. I am facing a lot of difficulty in Inference and function questions. What was your strategy for function questions ?
RC is all about practice. I did OG13 and Aristotle RCs and I think i did a total of around 60-70 passages. This doesn't include the ones i did during the practice tests. So i think practice works in RC.
Functions questions are not very difficult- ask yourself "Why" and for inference questions, ask yourself "What" and you should be able to get them correct

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by neha.gar » Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:28 am
neodante wrote:I am veteran here on beatthegmat(maybe not in terms of the number of posts but for the sheer regularity with which I would visit beatthegmat and the duration I have been here for). Am finished with my GMAT today and got an adorable score of 760.To be honest, I wasn't expecting this much. I was aiming at 740 and the thought of targeting 760 did occur but I thought it's better to target a little lower and get higher and be happy instead of targeting higher, pressurizing oneself and eventually getting a low score.

Here's the break up of the scores;

Overall score - 760 - 94th percentile
Quant score - 50 - 93th percentile
Verbal score - 42 - 94th percentile.
Haven't got the AWA score yet but I think it should be above 4.5.

The stats above look nice, don't they? It's hard to believe that they are mine. As hard to believe as it gets when you know that you can't get a hot girl and suddenly you get one. ;-D

Target schools - ISB, NUS, NTU, HKUST

The journey began and abruptly ended...


I started my preparation around 8 months back. The preparation went well for 1 month but I got sick with typhoid and this kept me out off from the prep for around 3 months.
Finally, I started my preparation again in Dec 2011 so in all I roughly spent around 4 months in preparing which I think is the ideal amount of time.

Diagnostic test result before starting my preparation: 630 on GMATPREP1


Material used:...

I chose the material after seeing the recommendations here on the forum.
SC - Aristotle SC+ Manhattan sc .Liked both but found aristotle sc to be written in an easier way

CR - : Used CR Grail but since I work for a Big4 , critical reasoning came naturally to me. I just went a lot of articles of CR in the GMAT Library section in a systematic way and I knew that I was good to go. I went through the Manhattan CR book initially but didn't like their approach of making T-diagrams and all. It seems inane to me. Also I didn't see much point in reading a lot of theory on something which came naturally to me. I read that much theory that helped me recognize the type of questions and the strategies for tackling them.For rest commonsense rules.

RC- OG RCs+RC Grail passages. I think this should be sufficient.

Quant- Manhattan advanced quant guide for theory + aristotle ps and ds boosters for practice
OG 12 - did OG12 two times in a systematic manner.A book you simply can't do without.

Practice test scores:
Did the Manhattan test series. I think that the Maths section has too many difficult questions. I did all the 6 tests and got varying scores.
Got a 740 on GMATPREP1 a week before the exam
Got a 740 again on GMATPREP2 4 days before the exam.

Now the most important elements to get 700+

1. Getting familiar with the test center :I live in Ghaziabad which is a satellite city to Delhi and my test center was almost 2 hours from my home. I was a little anxious about the distance because I had never seen that area where the test center was. I went to check the test center one day before the exam date for two reasons -to avoid last minute tension and second avoid last day study. You may not want to do this if you live closeby otherwise I think it makes sense to do it.
2. No study in the run up to the exam :Take at least 3 days off from office before the exam date so that you can unwind. Also don't keep any word pending in the office because this will psychologically disturb you,even though in a small way.You want to ensure that no unwanted thoughts clutter your mind as you take the test.

3. Relaxation is critical to victory: I think beyond a point, studies can't help you at all and the best thing you can do is to not study at all. Also while going to the test center on the test day, I put a relaxing Tibetan incantation Om mani padme hum. That chant really calmed me down as it always does.

4. Concentrating too hard during the exam?Think again Do not concentrate too hard during the exam. This may seem a bit contrarian but trust me this is important. If you concentrate too hard on the exam, either you'll get a headache or your anxiety level will shoot northwards. You need to give your brain "breathing space" otherwise it will simply not work the way you would want it to.

5. Assessing your performance during the exam. Avoid It: Do not try to assess how you are performing on the exam WHILE you are taking the exam. I cannot overemphasize this. We have a tendency to constantly think/judge/evaluate our performance on the last few questions and we tend to guess our score . Doing both of these things can prove fatal.

6. Stay relaxed :Things are bound to be different on the actual GMAT. There will a certain ups and downs during the exam. Take them in your stride and keep going.

7. Enjoy the exam. This simple yet important tip I read here on the forums helped me a lot. It's easier said than done but try to enjoy the whole GMAT experience rather than considering it to be a burden and you will feel that during the exam you will be able to focus better. In fact, enjoy the entire process of preparation.As goes one famous quote
'Winners take time to relish their work, knowing that scaling the mountain is what makes the view from the top so exhilarating'
Whoa! what a great post and loved those 7 tips..think that even if i am able to implement half of them, i will be past 700 mark.

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by ashok27 » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:18 am
neodante wrote:
RC is all about practice. I did OG13 and Aristotle RCs and I think i did a total of around 60-70 passages. This doesn't include the ones i did during the practice tests. So i think practice works in RC.
Functions questions are not very difficult- ask yourself "Why" and for inference questions, ask yourself "What" and you should be able to get them correct
I've a lil different opinion here. I think RC is very difficult to improve. One develops his reading habits and breadth of knowledge on different areas over a long period of time. Am I saying practice doesn't help? It does. But it can help you go from say 60% to 70-80% accuracy but not from 40% to 80%.

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by neha.gar » Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:00 am
ashok27 wrote:
neodante wrote:
RC is all about practice. I did OG13 and Aristotle RCs and I think i did a total of around 60-70 passages. This doesn't include the ones i did during the practice tests. So i think practice works in RC.
Functions questions are not very difficult- ask yourself "Why" and for inference questions, ask yourself "What" and you should be able to get them correct
I've a lil different opinion here. I think RC is very difficult to improve. One develops his reading habits and breadth of knowledge on different areas over a long period of time. Am I saying practice doesn't help? It does. But it can help you go from say 60% to 70-80% accuracy but not from 40% to 80%.
True..experiencing the same thing..been able to improve rc but not so much..still trying hard though to improve