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gmat prep -II ; If x is not equal to -y,

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by bblast » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:03 am
If x is not equal to -y, is (x-y)/(x+y) > 1 ?


1> x>0

2> y<0

I could solve this by looking at the statements. But I would like to see whether we can algebraically reduce a solution.
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by Anurag@Gurome » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:38 am
bblast wrote:If x is not equal to -y, is (x-y)/(x+y) > 1 ?
1> x>0
2> y<0
Consider the following two cases,
  • 1. x = 2 and y = -1 --> (x - y)/(x + y) = 3/1 = 3 > 1
    2. x = 2 and y = -3 --> (x - y)/(x + y) = 5/(-1) = -5 < 1
Both of the above cases satisfy both the statements but in one case the answer is to the main question is YES in other case it is NO. Hence, both statements together is not sufficient to answer the question.

The correct answer is E.
bblast wrote:...I would like to see whether we can algebraically reduce a solution.
The problem can be solved algebraically too, but in that case the solution will be a bit more time consuming.
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by amit2k9 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:44 am
you can condition this as per x and y as follows

add 1 to sides and you obtain

x/(x+y)> 1

subtract 1 from both sides and you obtain

y/(x+y) < 0

a. for x= 2 and y = -1|1 you have different results. Not sufficient.

b. for x= +|- 2 and y= -1 you have different results.not sufficient.

a+b

x=2 and y=-1 satisfies both the equations.
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by bblast » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:03 am
Thanks Anurag and Amit. Sorry I had erred in pasting the OA. {I was under the impression that I had got this one right-but realized after reading anurag's post and reviewing in detail}


Anurag- Could you please share with me an algebraic solution for this as well ?
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by Anurag@Gurome » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:11 am
bblast wrote:Anurag- Could you please share with me an algebraic solution for this as well ?
For x > 0 and y < 0, (x - y) will be always positive.
But (x + y) may be positive or negative and accordingly (x - y)/(x + y) will be greater than 1 or less than 1.

If x > |y|, then (x - y)/(x + y) = (x + |y|)/(x - |y|) > 1
If x < |y|, then (x - y)/(x + y) = (x + |y|)/(x - |y|) < 0 < 1

Hence, both statements together is not sufficient.
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by bblast » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:37 am
yup, the solution makes sense, but you are right, one would be better picking numbers for this.

Thanks a ton !!
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