Got 650. Need advice on Retake.

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Got 650. Need advice on Retake.

by gmatbond007 » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:33 am
Hi Folks,

I need some piece of advice .

I gave my GMAT last week, and scored 650(49Q,31V), which I feel, can be improved to 700+ atleast.. I had prepared for Gmat for close to 3 weeks and studied the following materials:

a. OG 11
b. Verbal Preview
c. OG 10
d. Manhattan SC
e Notes of rajat ,spidey and others.


During the preparation, My GMAT prep scores were 690(Q49,V37) and 640(Q49,V31).

During the tests, for my quant , I got around 85% questions from DS.All of them, i felt was a bit tuff. I think, I was able to solve most of the tuff DS questions. and completed the section in time. My GMAT prep results showed that, I was getting around 5 questions wrong in 0-25 and around 4-5 questions wrong in 26-37.

On real GMAT test, I experienced eexactly the same.almost 80% DS questions. All kind of tuff.

I am assuming the same thing ( which happened during the GMATPrep) happened to me on actual test.Other thing I observed on actual GMAT test was, I got around 5-7 questions around sequences and progressions, all of them revolving around the same fundamentals.

I had only studied questions 50-150 of OG11 maths section (DS) one day prior to the test. I was aiming to score around 50/51 in this section. Please provide some advice on this.


Now for the verbal section:

I admit that I am weak at the CR section. I would narrow the question down to 2 options but unfortunately ,still wont get the CR right. My OG CR hit rate was around 60%. However, The timing would range from 2-4 mins.
I had practiced questions from OG CRs and VerbaL preview. I would not get most of the questions right in the first place, inspite of narrowing down the options to 2.On revising the same questions from OG, I knew what the answer would be, as I had read the explanation earlier. So this would not help.

My RC and SC hit rate was much better at 75%-85%. SC timing was less than 1min 45 sec. Timing for RC passages were around 8-9 mins/passage

During the GMAT Prep tests, I found :

Between questions 1-25 , I would get around 5-6 questions wrong, which I would complete by 45-55min. Most of the wrong questions were the CR . I would get 3 RC by this time.

Between questions 25-41, I would get 8-9 questions wrong which would be clusters of 3-4 questions.I was kind of short of time for last 3 questions. Most of the time, the fourth RC comes between 32-37q, which kind of eats of majority of the time of last 25 mins. So after I finish off this RC, I am generally left with less than 10 mins for remaining 4-5 questions.

Of these 5 (37-41)questions, I tend to get my CR q wrongs and SCs most of the time correct.

I feel, I am not managing my time effectively and correctly, and am getting my most wrongs in the last 15-20 questions.

The same thing was reflected in one Manhattan test 680(Q48,V37).

I had given all the 3 tests in last week before my GMAT.

I am looking forward to score of 720+.

I am planning to retake the test in another 6 weeks from now.

I plan to revise OG 11 once agian.For CR I need to focus more on analysing line of reasoning why a certain option is right or wrong, buut doing questions from OG for CR maynot help.

what other material can I refer to .

Please provide me suggestions on how I could improve

a. Quant score to 50/51 levels

b. Verbal section score to atleast 40+ levels.
Esp with respect to CR: how i can cut down on time to narrow down the option and get it right, in less than 2 mins.I know practise is the key. What materials can I refer on this.

With regards to tests, what are the other tests I can take to judge my score.

-Any help is appreciated.
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by mayonnai5e » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:55 am
You have provided a very long post with a lot of detailed information, but what really striked me was that with all this detail about your hit rates and difficult areas, you never mentioned how you were effectively learning from your mistakes. How are you using the knowledge that you have gathered about your weaknesses to minimize your weaknesses and leverage your strengths?

I ask this because when I first started studying, I collect reams of data and statistics, all of which amounted to nothing as I failed miserably in leveraging that knowledge to improve where I needed improvement. It was later that I finally realized that all those statistics didn't mean squat if I wasn't learning my lessons from the questions that I was getting wrong. Instead of collecting details statistics, I simply concentrated on hit rates (one big simple easy number that told me where I should focus) and made it my goal to get every question right or if I got any wrong, learn a lesson from each.

Perhaps if you give us a better idea of your study preparation and techniques we can provide more help.
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by gmatbond007 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:19 am
Hi mayonnai5e,

First of all , I apologise for the long post.Thanks a bunch for replying to my post. I am eagerly looking forwrd to find out what/where did I go wrong in my prep.

Here is what was missing in my previous post:

I had just 3 weeks for the exam.

During the First week, I went through OG 11 verbal part completely.I went through the Manhattan SC book and notes mentioned above.

I would do 4 sets of 15CR-15RCq(3passages)-15SC in 75 mins, from OG 11 each day. I would mark the questions which I got wrong/ or couldnot do if I exceeded 25 mins per section. I would always lose out time on the CRsection. I would mark the unattempted questions/ worng questions.
Strict 25 mins were alloted to each section.

These sets were done during the time of the day, when I had scheduled my exam.

After the completion of the 4 sets, I would revisit the unattempted and wrong questions during the later half of the day, read through the OG explainations. and see If I could understand it. Mostly for CRs, I would understand what was the line of reasoning I missed up while eliminaating the options.

For wrong SC questions, I would try to see the explaination and note down what grammar/rule I missed up. This really helped me to improve my SC accuracy. I knew what rule I was applying to eliminate the answer choices.

For RC, iI would just redo the same passage in untimed environment to see what I missed.If I still got it wrong, I would read the OG explaination to see what extra was needed or what was the information I overlooked in deducing the answers.

The second week was devoted to OG10. and followed the similar procedure. During the last week, I revised the OG 11 again,revisitng what I got wrong the last time. Since I had read through the explainations earlier , It was easier, to get most of the questions right, this time.

During The last week, i gave GMATprep 1 on Sunday,Manhattan test on Tuesday and GMAT prep2 thursday with a gap of 1 day each. and Finally gmat exam on Saturday . I would look through the results and found that it wass CR which I was still making the same mistakes.

The typical CRs which I would get wrong were like a convversation between 2 persons and you need to provide a conclusion/or provide an asumption to support the conclusion of speaker 1/2 etc.

This was all I could do in the 3 weeks' time. These were the techniques I followed.

It would be great if you can provide you insights on this.

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by mayonnai5e » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:41 pm
It sounds to me like you are doing the right things. Personally, I would consider a 650 after just 3 weeks of study an achievement. I did not see a 650 cat score until many weeks into my studies. I think you should continue what you are doing and focus particularly on the weaknesses you have discovered and focus on leveraging the lessons you learn from each and every question.
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by gmatbond007 » Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:46 pm
Thanks mayonnai5e, for your supporting words. I really feel I should be ablee to get past 700. I will be re-starting off my preparations again this weeek onwards. I will concentrate more on weakness and will refer to some more books for learning.

I will keep you posted on things work out.

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by Alpha800 » Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:36 pm
gmatbond007 wrote:Thanks mayonnai5e, for your supporting words. I really feel I should be ablee to get past 700. I will be re-starting off my preparations again this weeek onwards. I will concentrate more on weakness and will refer to some more books for learning.

I will keep you posted on things work out.

-Thanks
mayank
mayank, have you read mayonnai5e's blog thread? https://www.beatthegmat.com/my-blog-erro ... t4899.html

if you have not, you really should. this guy is AMAZING at his ability to self analyze, especially the mistakes he's making and correcting the mistakes. I am just so enamored with his ability to self critique and to improve from his weaknesses.

I'm 100% convinced that many more testers could score higher if they went about intelligently studying rather than brute force studying. That is to say, that you need to learn from your mistakes and improve upon them. You can't just spend more hours doing the same things. One can't possibly improve that way. One has to analyze, learn upon, and then try anew solutions to ultimately improve. Lee (mayonnai5e) is a master at self analysis. Please read his blog thread if you have not read it already. It's just amazing how critical he is towards himself. If you want to improve, you must find your weakness and analyze why or how you're making the mistakes you are, and learn from them. Yes, I know it's much harder done than said, but one must put in this effort if one really wants to surpass the 700 mark.

good luck on your studying.