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by Schrute Beets » Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:52 pm
Pat bought 5 lbs. of apples. How many pounds of pears could Pat have bought for the same amount of money?

(1) One pound of pears costs $0.50 more than one pound of apples.

(2) One pound of pears costs 1 1/2 times as much as one pound of apples.


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Source: — Data Sufficiency |

by Canman » Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:04 am
A = spending on apples
Qa = quantity of apples
Pa = price of apples

Z = spending on pears
Qz = quantity of pears
Pz = price of pears

so...

A = Qa * Pa <--- this is the amount of money he will have to spend on pears

Z=A <--- given in the stem

Qz = (5 * Pa ) / Pz <--- we are given Qa=5 in stem.

1) Pz = Pa + .50 <-- Insufficient because we can't solve for Pz or Pa

2) Pz = (3/2)Pa <-- Insufficient because we can't solve for Pz or Pa

Together we have the system of equations and can plug in Pa and Pz to find Qz

Ans C
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by Mclaughlin » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:29 am
My choice is D both are sufficient

A. we know that pears are fifty cents more a pound. If she bought 5 pounds of apples then lets says apples are $2 a pound, so she spent 10 dollars. That means pears are 2.50 and she can buy 4 pounds worth. SUFFICIENT

B. we know basically the same thing, but this time it's 1.5 times as much per pound, so we can still figure out how many pounds she can buy with the amount she spent on apples, whatever that amount is. SUFFICIENT

What is the OA?
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by ricky » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:43 am
IMO C...

Wots OA?
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by Canman » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:55 am
Good catch...

I'm not so sure about C now

1) I still think this is insufficient. If you plug in some more values for price of apples you will get different quantities of pears.

Mathematically you can see how this is the case

Going back to my earlier post:

Qz = (5 * Pa) / Pz
Qz = (5 * Pa) / (Pa + .50)

2) I see how this can be sufficient:

You want to solve Qz = (5 * Pa) / Pz
and statement 2 tells you that Pz = (3/2) * Pa so...

Qz = (5 * Pa) / (3/2) * Pa which can be simplified to find Qz

Looks like B may be the answer after all.
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by ildude02 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:56 am
Answer is B.
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by ildude02 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:01 am
Mclaughlin wrote:My choice is D both are sufficient

A. we know that pears are fifty cents more a pound. If she bought 5 pounds of apples then lets says apples are $2 a pound, so she spent 10 dollars. That means pears are 2.50 and she can buy 4 pounds worth. SUFFICIENT

B. we know basically the same thing, but this time it's 1.5 times as much per pound, so we can still figure out how many pounds she can buy with the amount she spent on apples, whatever that amount is. SUFFICIENT

What is the OA?
I would say A is insufficient becoz the number of pears that can be bought differs with the dollar amount . With the same example you had, if the apples were $4 a pound, then the number of pounds of pears that can be bought will be different. Without knowing exactly how much amount, it will be INSUFF. At least, that's my understanding.
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by Mclaughlin » Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:47 am
Hmm then how does #2 work since I did the same rationale?
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by ildude02 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:31 am
from statement 1, we get that pears cost 0.50 more than the what 1lb of apples cost. If X$ was the cost of 5lbs of apple, then x/5 is 1lb of apples.

Pears cost of 1 lb = x/5 + 0.5. The total numbers of lbs that can be bought for X$ is, X/(x/5 + 0.5) = 5x/(x+ 2.5); without knowing X, its insuffcient.

With statement b, 1lb of pears cost 3/2 * (x/5) = 3x/10.

Total num of lbs is, x / (3x/10) = 10/3 ~ 3 lbs.

That's the math I used to solve it. Not sure if I missed something.
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by beeparoo » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:35 am
Hahahahahaha! Schrute Beets! :shock: I couldn't even look at the question before bursting out laughing.

"QUESTION: Did my shoes come off in the plane crash?"
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by mim3 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:57 pm
beeparoo wrote:Hahahahahaha! Schrute Beets! :shock: I couldn't even look at the question before bursting out laughing.

"QUESTION: Did my shoes come off in the plane crash?"
Hilarious.

I think it's B. We're only looking for a ratio/relationship between the price of apples/lb and the price of pears/lb. We get that in B.
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by amitdgr » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:07 pm
Canman wrote:A = spending on apples
Qa = quantity of apples
Pa = price of apples

Z = spending on pears
Qz = quantity of pears
Pz = price of pears

so...

A = Qa * Pa <--- this is the amount of money he will have to spend on pears

Z=A <--- given in the stem

Qz = (5 * Pa ) / Pz <--- we are given Qa=5 in stem.

1) Pz = Pa + .50 <-- Insufficient because we can't solve for Pz or Pa

2) Pz = (3/2)Pa <-- Insufficient because we can't solve for Pz or Pa

Together we have the system of equations and can plug in Pa and Pz to find Qz

Ans C

Qz = (5 * Pa ) / Pz or Qz = 5 * (Pa / Pz)

From one we cant find Pa/Pz value

from 2 we have Pa/Pz value as 2/3 .... Therefore 2 alone is sufficient

Answer is B
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by Fab » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:55 am
I would go with B.

A is insufficient cause the ammount of peers will change depending of te cost of apples.

B establishes a relationship:
5 pounds of apples -----> x $
y pounds of peers -------> 1.5x $

Solving we have: 5x/1/3x/2---->10/3---> 3 1/3 pounds of peers
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