Explanation please III, question from Manhattan verbal book

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by iamcste » Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:39 am
logitech wrote:Manolo Blahniks

Is it used as a plural or singular noun in this sentence ?


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by vivek.kapoor83 » Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:02 am
popular television show GMAT and the city. .... ? Do u all think its popular.. ? Not even 1 of us know wht the heck MB is. :) :P

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by dubeystuts » Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:55 am
Thanks guys.

Unfortunately there is no explanation given.

Because the sentence refers to 'their' in the later part of the sentence I would think C and E are incorrect because option includes singular verb is.

B is wordy and awakward.

I don't know which one to pick between A and E. If I have to choose I will choose option A.

Can someone please explain why A is incorrect?

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by mals24 » Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:01 am
@vivek.kapoor83

Cmon every1 knows what MB is its such a popular brand of footwear. Probably the guys must be clueless but don't include the girls in "every1".

Btw just a general question are brands like MB, Chanel etc countable nouns or uncountable. I'm still confused whether we should use amount/number.

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by vivek.kapoor83 » Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:46 am
GREATER is used when we compare and Increase is used to express change of 1 thing over time.

The price of silver increased by 10$
The price of Silver is greater than copper.

So, Here We are com
paring the previous sales with the expected higher sales,so greater.SO D
but not sure abt usage of 'their' for a brand name

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by logitech » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:35 am
vivek.kapoor83 wrote:popular television show GMAT and the city. .... ? Do u all think its popular.. ? Not even 1 of us know wht the heck MB is. :) :P
Well I am looking at one of the pair now as I write this. If you want to understand SC religiously, you have to watch the GMAT and city! It is a must! ;-)
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by mals24 » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:31 am
Lolz logitech count me in :)

Thanks vivek for making it clear now. Appreciate your effort.

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by dubeystuts » Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:33 am
Thanks Vivek.

You have said a very valid point. The option should use 'greater' but as you said I am not sure what 'their' is referring to and the option also seems to be wordy.

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by rohangupta83 » Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:59 am
wouldn't usage of 'amount' be incorrect in D because MB is countable.

example - 1 Manolo Blahnik shoe, 2 MB shoes, 3 MB shoes and so on?

wouldn't you be using 'number' instead of 'amount'?

As far as I know, you use amount for uncountable entities. like amount of water, amount of money etc.

unless MB (which is a brand) is understood to be an uncountable entity, I feel D is incorrect. And that is why I picked E.

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by gmat009 » Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:06 am
mals24 wrote:@vivek.kapoor83

Cmon every1 knows what MB is its such a popular brand of footwear. Probably the guys must be clueless but don't include the girls in "every1".
I totally agree with you.

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by Stacey Koprince » Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:06 pm
We all know you'd never see a brand name like this on the official test. In this case, that's actually germane to the question of whether this is countable or not countable. Shoes are countable, but would GMAC consider a brand name of a shoe countable? I have no idea because it doesn't use something like this on the test!

I also don't think the official test would test us on "illogical meaning" in this way. Basically, the problem with the meaning is that the "more than ever" applies to the expectations, not to the number being sold. So the shoes are "more than ever expected" to be sold. If that's really what the person wants to say, there's nothing wrong with that. It just sounds funny because it's sort of a funny thing to point out: the shoes are always expected to sell but they're "more than ever" expected to sell this season. The real test is a lot more clear about redundancy or illogical meaning in order to let us know that we should change the original meaning.

B is redundant ("more than ever will be sold" and "than previously.")

As others have noticed, C has a sub/verb mismatch (plural noun + sing verb).

D: Because it says "Manolo BlahnikS" - I have to assume they're using this word as a countable noun. You don't add an "s" to the end of an uncountable noun to make it plural. I have many bottles of water. I have much water. I have much waterS? I have many dollars in my wallet. I have much money in my wallet. I have much moneyS (or monies) in my wallet?

And if it's countable, you'd say "number" not "amount." So D's no good.

E is the best of what's offered. It's still awkward, but I sometimes think official test question correct answers are awkward too, so whatever. :) It fixes the above issues and also correctly uses "increase" instead of "greater than" - we're talking about the change of one thing over time (which matches with increase), not the comparison of two things (which matches with greater than).

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More than ever, Manolo Blahniks are expected to be sold this season, due to their mention on the popular television show GMAT and the city.


A) More than ever, Manolo Blahniks are expected to be sold this season,
B) It is expected that more Manolo Blahniks than ever will be sold this season than previously and that is
C) The Manolo Blahniks expected to be sold this season is more than ever
D) The amount of Manolo Blahniks that will be sold this season is expected to be greater than ever
E) A great increase in the number of Manolo Blahniks expected to be sold this season is
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by iamcste » Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:22 pm
Thanks Stacey!

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by Stacey Koprince » Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:32 pm
I just noticed the title of this thread. Is this question from Manhattan Review? I don't recognize it from the ManhattanGMAT books (and I just searched through myself and couldn't find it). So I don't think it's ours but I do want to know if it is because, if so, I'm going to suggest some changes to the problem. Please let me know!
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by dubeystuts » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:19 am
Thanks for the explanation Stacey.

Yes, the question is from the Manhattan verbal book. I will find the page number and will post the details here.

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by Stacey Koprince » Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:02 pm
Manhattan Review? or ManhattanGMAT? (Those are two different companies.)
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