Depressed about GMAT score 600. Average 660-710 on practice

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I took the GMAT for the first time today after busting my ass off studying for almost three months. I took an online Manhattan GMAT course, took five MG CAT exams (660, 700, 690, 710 and 710) and two GMAT prep exams (690 and 710). I usually score in the 90th-94th percentile for verbal and 65-84 percentile for math.

Now I took the exam today in New York City and was pretty confident. When the math section started, I got some easy questions but for some reason, I was messing up. In the middle of the test, I got some pretty easy exponent questions (def 300-500 level), so I know I was not doing that great. I kept on making careless errors. Then, I had four minutes to answer 6 questions. The pressure of the ticking clock made me not focus. I ended up with a 34 on math (I think 48%)

Then, I thought I knew that a mediocre math performance can be mitigated by dominating verbal. I took the LSATs in college and scored a 167 (95th percentile), so logic comes fairly easy. I thought I was dominating verbal. I ended the section 9 minutes early (as I did with earlier practice exams). To my shock, I got the 79% for verbal for a total score of 600. That was lower than my diagnostic with Manhattan Gmat.

I feel like complete crap. I literally spent 4-5 hours daily before and after work to study for the last two months. I felt so prepared and do not even know how to begin a retake strategy. I knew I screwed up math, but verbal was a complete shock. Does a 600 score on your record dismiss you from schools like Harvard, Whartan, Columbia or NYU? Especially since I scored a 48% in math?

I have a very strong application otherwise (Phi Betta Kappa from highly ranked undergrad, awarded volunteer big brother of the year in my region, youngest employee to have a management role in our company, strong letters of recommendation from the both the president of the company and former employer)
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by DanaJ » Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:57 am
Hey sorry it didn't go as planned... But you are right: the quant score might drag your application down, unfortunately, especially for the schools you're aiming for... Have you considered getting a tutor? Maybe someone like that can help with your quant!

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by michaelk » Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:51 am
DanaJ wrote:Hey sorry it didn't go as planned... But you are right: the quant score might drag your application down, unfortunately, especially for the schools you're aiming for... Have you considered getting a tutor? Maybe someone like that can help with your quant!
I am thinking about getting a tutor. Its just that my percentile average for practice exams was from the mid 60s to the a high of 84%. Therefore, I do not think it was necessarily ability level that hindered my performance but anxiety. On my diagnostic exam with Manhattan Gmat (took over five months ago, I scored a 640). I am pretty sure I can mimic my practice test performance on the actual exam with persistence. However, its just quite discouraging given my strong performance during my prep.


Hypothetically speaking, should I bring my quantitative score up to the lower end of my practice test performance (41-45), would admissions officers disregard my previous score as a fluke and consider the higher score a more accurate reflection of my ability? I ask this because when I took the LSAT the first time in college and received a 164 (90th percentile), my advisor told me that even if I improved, top law schools would average the scores. I took the exam again and got a 167 (95th percentile) and my advisor said that my chances for Columbia, Harvard were probably gone (despite my 3.89 GPA). Do business school admissions have the same type of mentality?

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by DanaJ » Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:01 am
Business schools are OK with you taking the GMAT three times at most. You can report only your highest score, which is really good news!

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by David@VeritasPrep » Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:47 pm
michaelk -

I attended law school and now teach the LSAT as well as the GMAT. What you are saying about the LSAT is true (at least it was true). In the past nearly all law schools would average your two scores. It was really not in the best interest of law schools applicants to take the LSAT a second time unless they really improved. Also, law schools value the LSAT to a higher degree than MBA programs value the GMAT. The GMAT is very important to Business schools but for some law schools it is more important than all other elements of your application put together. So what your adviser told you was probably true of law school - but this does not hold true for business school.

What Dana says about retaking the GMAT is well put. They do look at your highest score - and, in fact, some schools take your best score from the Quant and your best from the Verbal even if they are from different test dates. In fact, I have heard second hand that some schools really like to see you try a second time if you are not above their median score - it shows that you are really serious.

So - take it again - after you figure out what happened and how to avoid those problems reoccurring.

And one more thing - it sounds like you are good in verbal. Did you go too quickly? 9 minutes left is quite a bit of time. Did you go for some quick answers when you could have dug deeper? Just a question because I sometimes see that from my tutoring students when they have too much time left in verbal.

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by bradenww » Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:40 pm
Hey MichaelK. Could you tell me where you are at now - Have you retaken the test? Are you studying now, and if so what of the advice above has really helped you to fix the problems?

My story is as pretty much exactly like yours. It does not feel good.