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by hitesht » Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:42 am
IMO C

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by Ravish » Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:50 pm
IMO A

B) is eliminated because the argument never claims that the reason for the maple syrups popularity is because the syrup is made the old fashioned way.

C) To extreme. Makes it sound like all Market surveys are a waste of money and lack credibility

D) A moot point. The argument highlights the syrups taste and specifically states that the customers stated this would be their syrup of choice - No if's, and , or buts. The last 3 words eliminate the possibility of the being able to assume that the customers may say - IF the price was higher , we would have switched.

E) Irrelevant.

Hence, IMO, A is the correct answer as it presents a questionable scenario without going to extremities that one can use to doubt the credibility of the survey. For all you know, the people taking the surveys could have interviewed just 10 people.


What is the OA?

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by rishab1988 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:56 pm
Nice try.But this is not the OA.

I will not post the OA until someone gives the correct answer and the reason for doing so.

Btw these are absolutely brutal questions (CR brutal 1,2,3,4,5,and 6),which you may also try, taken directly from LSAT.

I would love that experts comment on these questions.

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by purnimaksingh » Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:16 pm
rishab1988 wrote:Nice try.But this is not the OA.

I will not post the OA until someone gives the correct answer and the reason for doing so.

Btw these are absolutely brutal questions (CR brutal 1,2,3,4,5,and 6),which you may also try, taken directly from LSAT.

I would love that experts comment on these questions.
I think answer is D, if correct let me know I have my reasoning ready

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by rishab1988 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:18 pm
Yes the OA is D.

Give an explanation as to why D and why not C ,which means that the all surveys only have limited number of people.This hence proves that the survey is not representative.
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by purnimaksingh » Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:20 pm
rishab1988 wrote:Yes the OA is D.

Give an explanation as to why D?
Before explanation, I want to ask you one question are you follwoing CR Bible from powerscore if yes then its should be easy :)

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by rishab1988 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:23 pm
Which CR bible? The LSAT one or the GMAT one?

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by purnimaksingh » Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:31 pm
purnimaksingh wrote:
rishab1988 wrote:Yes the OA is D.

Give an explanation as to why D?
Before explanation, I want to ask you one question are you follwoing CR Bible from powerscore if yes then its should be easy :)
Actaully ist a weaken question, you need to weaken the relationship between the premise and the conclusion:

Weaken questions need you to trust the anwer choice and doubt the stimulus, which even if the answer choice has "NEW" information and if its doing the job of weaking the relationship between the premise and conclusion you need to consider it.

Lets verify each anwer choice:

A) It is just a stated premise. Does weaken, its a fact ignore
B)Its the shell game answer (sheel game means close to right), even if other brands are old fashioned, so what!!!! how does it change the popularit of this syrup . Just because you see "Old Fashione" dont jump to it
C)Its exgarrate answer. NO SURVARY, we dont know (NO servay means none), where is it mentioned, its an asumption and over generalization.
D) Right Answer, because it shows the relationship between the popularity of this Mapple syrup is not based on just "Old -fashioned", people like it because its cheap. Agaig chep is "NEW INFORMATION" but it does make the realation between the old fashione syurp being most popular

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by purnimaksingh » Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:37 pm
rishab1988 wrote:Which CR bible? The LSAT one or the GMAT one?
Its powerScore CR bible, it actaull has CR concepts. I have just started this book. This book actaull explains each CR type questions (there are 10 types Main point, Must be true, Strengthen, weaken, asumption, method of reasoning, paralle reasoing, resolve the paradox etce) in detail.
Its a good buy, imporves your reasoning

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by rishab1988 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:39 pm
If the reason for C being wrong is over generalization "No market survey covers more than a sizable minority" and hence makes an assumption,then in that case,D is an even bigger assumption because it says the word "MIGHT be based on.. low price".It doesn't actually say that the price is low and also doesn't say that the people surveyed prefer it because it is cheap.

It simply makes an assumption:"it could have have happened".

But according me C is much stronger than D in that it actually states that "NO MARKET SURVEY covers more than a sizable minority of the total population:.This means that all surveys including this one has covers sizable minorities.Also,you can't say it is a generalization,according to me,because it doesn't say"SOME surveys" or even "MOST surveys"

Lets assume no of surveys= 100
NO ONE =0
SOME= 1-100
MOST = 51-100

Therefore,there is no room for exception in C (generalization)

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by rishab1988 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:43 pm
I also recommend that you solve the other CR brutal questions (a total of 6) in the CR section of the forum.

Most people,till now, have shied away from these absolutely brutal questions.

I am hoping that some experts comment on these questions,including this one.

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by sungoal » Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:12 pm
D should be the answer..

Ad says people buy syrup because of the taste, but D shows that Ad is misleading by providing the alternate explanation that it is cheap in price...

Wats the OA?

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by rishab1988 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:14 pm
And why not C?

C says its an unrepresentative sample.

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by sungoal » Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:16 pm
C is wrong because it is generalizing that no market survey takes the representative sample.. We can not generalize this on the basis of only single instance of survey provided in the argument...

D is much better, as it is not going out of scope by using the word "might"..