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by fighting_cax » Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:43 pm
As the etched lines on computer memory chips have become thinner and the chips’ circuits more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have vastly increased.
(A) the chips’ circuits more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have
(B) the chips’ circuits more complex, the power of both the chips and the electronic devices they drive has
(C) the chips’ circuits are more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive has
(D) their circuits are more complex, the power of both the chips and the electronic devices they drive have
(E) their circuits more complex, both the power of the chips

OA is B

Please explain.

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by sjd00d » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:47 pm
Agree with B.

A: "Power .....have", should have used singular verb has
C. "both the power of the chips and electronic devices"..here power of chips is and electronic devices are compared, it should be power of chips and power of electronic devices..Also, "chip's circuits are more complex"...i am pretty sure that "are" here is not reqd. or is wrong, don't know which rule it violates though.

D and E are clearly wrong as it doesn't have a clear antecedent.. we don't know if "their" is referring to chips or etched lines.

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by x2suresh » Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:39 pm
sjd00d wrote:Agree with B.

A: "Power .....have", should have used singular verb has
C. "both the power of the chips and electronic devices"..here power of chips is and electronic devices are compared, it should be power of chips and power of electronic devices..Also, "chip's circuits are more complex"...i am pretty sure that "are" here is not reqd. or is wrong, don't know which rule it violates though.

D and E are clearly wrong as it doesn't have a clear antecedent.. we don't know if "their" is referring to chips or etched lines.
agree with your logic.

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by uptowngirl92 » Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:12 pm
A whole lot of discussion is required!
As the etched lines on computer memory chips have become thinner and the chips' circuits more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have vastly increased.
(A) the chips' circuits more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have
(B) the chips' circuits more complex, the power of both the chips and the electronic devices they drive has
(C) the chips' circuits are more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive has
(D) their circuits are more complex, the power of both the chips and the electronic devices they drive have
(E) their circuits more complex, both the power of the chips

OA is [spoiler=]B[/spoiler]
Shoul'nt a sentence have the same tense throughout??Since we already have "HAVE" in the non underlined are..shouldnt the correct answer have "HAVE".Please somebody consolidate the explanation for poor people like me:(

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by uymba » Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:12 am
Here is my analysis:

Look at the bold part.

As the etched lines on computer memory chips have become thinner and the chips' circuits more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have vastly increased.

it is a plural noun, so the verb should be plural: HAVE.


(A) the chips' circuits more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have - SEEMS OK.

(B) the chips' circuits more complex, the power of both the chips and the electronic devices they drive has - HAS WRONG.

(C) the chips' circuits are more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive has - HAS WRONG.

(D) their circuits are more complex, the power of both the chips and the electronic devices they drive have - HAVE OK, but ARE MORE COMPLEX does not agree with tense HAVE BECOME.

(E) their circuits more complex, both the power of the chips - NO VERB and NO "AND" after both, ARE YOU SURE YOU WROTE THE COMPLETE ANSWER?

IMO: A.

Of course I could be wrong, but I believe the analysis is worth and a solid base to establish a discussion.
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by heshamelaziry » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:55 am
uymba wrote:Here is my analysis:

Look at the bold part.

As the etched lines on computer memory chips have become thinner and the chips' circuits more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have vastly increased.

it is a plural noun, so the verb should be plural: HAVE.


(A) the chips' circuits more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have - SEEMS OK.

(B) the chips' circuits more complex, the power of both the chips and the electronic devices they drive has - HAS WRONG.

(C) the chips' circuits are more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive has - HAS WRONG.

(D) their circuits are more complex, the power of both the chips and the electronic devices they drive have - HAVE OK, but ARE MORE COMPLEX does not agree with tense HAVE BECOME.

(E) their circuits more complex, both the power of the chips - NO VERB and NO "AND" after both, ARE YOU SURE YOU WROTE THE COMPLETE ANSWER?

IMO: A.

Of course I could be wrong, but I believe the analysis is worth and a solid base to establish a discussion.

I find both a and b correct because both is placed in differetn places in each.

I don't know why B is Good and A is not ???!11111

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by heshamelaziry » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:59 am
heshamelaziry wrote:
uymba wrote:Here is my analysis:

Look at the bold part.

As the etched lines on computer memory chips have become thinner and the chips' circuits more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have vastly increased.

it is a plural noun, so the verb should be plural: HAVE.


(A) the chips' circuits more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have - SEEMS OK.

(B) the chips' circuits more complex, the power of both the chips and the electronic devices they drive has - HAS WRONG.

(C) the chips' circuits are more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive has - HAS WRONG.

(D) their circuits are more complex, the power of both the chips and the electronic devices they drive have - HAVE OK, but ARE MORE COMPLEX does not agree with tense HAVE BECOME.

(E) their circuits more complex, both the power of the chips - NO VERB and NO "AND" after both, ARE YOU SURE YOU WROTE THE COMPLETE ANSWER?

IMO: A.

Of course I could be wrong, but I believe the analysis is worth and a solid base to establish a discussion.

I find both a and b correct because both is placed in differetn places in each.

I don't know why B is Good and A is not ???!11111
I see what I missed, because I didn't read each answer choice diligently.
The sentence intends to say power for Both Chips and for devices. A does not serve this meaning; it only says power for chips only.
That's why B is correct.

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by uptowngirl92 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:40 pm
guys this is so not clear,...How can the correct answer have "HAS" when plural form is reqd??
Please please help

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by heshamelaziry » Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:57 pm
uptowngirl92 wrote:guys this is so not clear,...How can the correct answer have "HAS" when plural form is reqd??
Please please help
Something Extremely important to memorize:

When you compare x and y, yuo don't say: each x and y has. Has here is correct, but with comparisons you always use plural, but keep the singular verb as if you were saying: each x and y.

Plus, the intended meaning here is to say that X has power and Y has power, not that X and Y have power.

Also, unlike the recommendation for CR, don't try to answer the question before reading the answer choices, because you can't tell what the writer wants to say before reading the answer choices.

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by uymba » Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:13 pm
heshamelaziry wrote:
heshamelaziry wrote:
uymba wrote:Here is my analysis:

Look at the bold part.

As the etched lines on computer memory chips have become thinner and the chips' circuits more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have vastly increased.

it is a plural noun, so the verb should be plural: HAVE.


(A) the chips' circuits more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive have - SEEMS OK.

(B) the chips' circuits more complex, the power of both the chips and the electronic devices they drive has - HAS WRONG.

(C) the chips' circuits are more complex, both the power of the chips and the electronic devices they drive has - HAS WRONG.

(D) their circuits are more complex, the power of both the chips and the electronic devices they drive have - HAVE OK, but ARE MORE COMPLEX does not agree with tense HAVE BECOME.

(E) their circuits more complex, both the power of the chips - NO VERB and NO "AND" after both, ARE YOU SURE YOU WROTE THE COMPLETE ANSWER?

IMO: A.

Of course I could be wrong, but I believe the analysis is worth and a solid base to establish a discussion.

I find both a and b correct because both is placed in differetn places in each.

I don't know why B is Good and A is not ???!11111
I see what I missed, because I didn't read each answer choice diligently.
The sentence intends to say power for Both Chips and for devices. A does not serve this meaning; it only says power for chips only.
That's why B is correct.
I made the same mistake! you are right. B is the correct answer!

the power has.
"both" goes after "power".
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by Stacey Koprince » Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:57 am
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