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China GNP

by hellother » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:07 am
China wants to avoid financial collapse of their economy. In order to do this, China must raise their gross national product rate by 33%. China's economy is structured so that if the 33% increase in GNP is reached, than it is possible for a 50% GNP increase.

Of the following statements listed below, which one must be true if we are to assume the above statements are also true?

A. China's economy will fall, if China's 50% increase in GNP is unattainable.
B. China's GNP will not have a 50% increase, if its economy falls.
C. The economy of China will not fall, if it can obtain an increased GNP of 50%.
D. A 17% GNP increase will be unattainable, if China continues to suffer national conflict.
E. A 71% increase is possible, if the 33% brink is achieved, and the 50% GNP increase is attainable.

MY DOUBT :
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The answer is given as (A). But why is it so ? The stimulus says that it is POSSIBLE for a 50% GNP increase if a 33% GNP increase is attained. It is just a possibility. So if China has a 40% GNP increase ( after having reached 33%) ,we can't conclude that it's economy has fallen. This is so, because it is given that a 33% increase is enough for avoiding the financial collapse.[/spoiler]

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by crisro » Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:01 am
IMO options A and C say the same thing

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by tisrar02 » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:53 am
A) If China can not reach its 50% mark than we can assume from the passage that China can not attain the 33% mark in which it needs to avoid economic downfall. Also remember, the stimulus says that if China reaches 33%, we can easily assume that it can reach 50% because it is given in the passage.

C says the same thing but in the counter-positive sense.

Whats the source?

I would have gone with A though
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by hellother » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:42 am
Thanks for the reply... But I still do have a doubt. You have said that
" the stimulus says that if China reaches 33%, we can easily assume that it can reach 50% because it is given in the passage. " But nowhere in the passage does it say that, if China reaches 33%, it must reach 50% .It says that it is a POSSIBILITY . But not necessary that the 50% increase MUST happen . That's what the stimulus says .. right ?

I found this question on one of the websites. I don't remember which one...

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by hjafferi » Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:19 pm
IMO A

A) correct answer
B) reverse is bing said that economy will not fall if 50% growth is not attained
C) from the paragraph it is suggested that economy,s fall MAY be prevented if 50% growth is attained
D) out of context
E) out of context

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by mohan514 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:08 am
hjafferi wrote:IMO A

A) correct answer
B) reverse is bing said that economy will not fall if 50% growth is not attained
C) from the paragraph it is suggested that economy,s fall MAY be prevented if 50% growth is attained
D) out of context
E) out of context
here in c it states that the economy WILL not fall
so i think will is a strong word and it means certainly
so your explanation to eliminate cdont look convincing enough

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by 7777 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:37 am
hellother wrote:China wants to avoid financial collapse of their economy. In order to do this, China must raise their gross national product rate by 33%. China's economy is structured so that if the 33% increase in GNP is reached, than it is possible for a 50% GNP increase.

Of the following statements listed below, which one must be true if we are to assume the above statements are also true?

A. China's economy will fall, if China's 50% increase in GNP is unattainable.
B. China's GNP will not have a 50% increase, if its economy falls.
C. The economy of China will not fall, if it can obtain an increased GNP of 50%.
D. A 17% GNP increase will be unattainable, if China continues to suffer national conflict.
E. A 71% increase is possible, if the 33% brink is achieved, and the 50% GNP increase is attainable.

MY DOUBT :
[spoiler]
The answer is given as (A). But why is it so ? The stimulus says that it is POSSIBLE for a 50% GNP increase if a 33% GNP increase is attained. It is just a possibility. So if China has a 40% GNP increase ( after having reached 33%) ,we can't conclude that it's economy has fallen. This is so, because it is given that a 33% increase is enough for avoiding the financial collapse.[/spoiler]

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sufficient condition (chinese economy did'nt fall or collapse) necessary condition (gnp must have risen to 33%)
no fall>>>gnp above33%

C says if gnp rose to 50% then the chinese economy didn't fall. this is a wrong inference in this case.
only two inferences that could be drawn are-
1.if chinese economy didn't fall then the gnp of china would be above 33%
2.if the gnp of china has not risen to 33% then its economy will fall.

two wrong inferences would be-
1.if gnp rose to 50% then the chinese economy wouldnt fall.
2.if chinese economy had fallen then the the gnp would not have risen to 33%.


in A if 50% becomes unattainable that indirectly means that rise is less than 33%(otherwise 50%would be attainable),then it becomes sure that economy will fall.
IMO this is a correct choice.

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by hellother » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:10 am
Hi ... Thanks for the reply ...I understand now....

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by tisrar02 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:54 pm
hellother wrote:Thanks for the reply... But I still do have a doubt. You have said that
" the stimulus says that if China reaches 33%, we can easily assume that it can reach 50% because it is given in the passage. " But nowhere in the passage does it say that, if China reaches 33%, it must reach 50% .It says that it is a POSSIBILITY . But not necessary that the 50% increase MUST happen . That's what the stimulus says .. right ?

I found this question on one of the websites. I don't remember which one...
Sorry, what I meant to say is that the passage says that if China reaches 33%, then it can be possible to reach 50%. But if we assume that reaching 50% is absolutely unattainable, then we can safely assume that China can not reach their 33% mark as well which means that the economy may fall.
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