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Hi all, this is my first post here. I suppose it is too long for a first one. I have been following the post in this community during my preparation for GMAT. I felt others experiences – good or bad, helped me prepare better. So with this in mind I am sharing my experiences as well. Perhaps it might help you. I gave my GMAT today... I am disappointed and confused after seeing my scores.

My profile briefly...
I am working as a software engineer in a well known Software Company, India (3 Years experience now…. Should be 4 years by the time I apply). I have passed out of BITS-Pilani (one among the top five colleges in India) with a mediocre CGPA. Extracurricular activities: moderate (been the head of the acting club in college).

Now why did I give GMAT?
I always wanted to do my mba, right after my first year at office. I tried my hand at CAT for the IIMs… did not fair well (especially in English). Got a 96 percentile for XAT but didn’t consider any colleges other than XLRI. Then I considered giving GMAT.

How did I start?
I did research on the colleges, met lots of people, surfed through sites and finally enrolled with Princeton Review (PR). I gave my first CAT at PR got 640 Q48 V34 (without AWA) without any preparation. I was pretty confident at this point of making above 700 then. I had a cool 4 months to prepare so a little tuning of Verbal and I should be there. I then aimed at 720 and colleges with average GMAT in that range.

Study plan
I did my best to balance both hectic work at office (moved into very critical project with only me to handle the issues at offshore) and my study. I made sure that I learned all the OG questions. I started with Math first. After doing the OG 11 math, I was confident to score well in Math on the exam day. Then I spent all my time to understand Sentence Correction (SC) and Critical Reasoning (CR). I found that I am pretty consistent in my CR. My accuracy in CR was around 75 to 85 percent. Reading Comprehension (RC) was very difficult for me. Sometimes I could not agree with the explanations in the OG 11. In addition, I also did Kaplan 800 (it is very reader friendly and has very good explanations for CR and RC, but Kaplan SC was beyond me) and OG Verbal Review in addition to attending PR classes. Here are the stats associated with my progress:-
21st Apr PR1 630 51Q 26V (Disappointed with my Verbal, earlier thought that I couldn’t possibly score less that 34 in verbal after having learned all the rules and the tricks)
1st May PR2 710 51Q 38V (Really brought my confidence back, here I should mention that I had done my Verbal section a day after the Quant)
17th May PR3 620 48Q 28V (Realised that not being in touch with Math does count, verbal scores still disappoint… but had done the AWA this time and the test was strictly timed so exhaustion did show up)
15th Jun Kaplan free Test 680 47Q 39V (I had earlier heard that Kaplan test skews down your score by 30 to 40 points, so assumed that I was back on track to achieving my goal)
23rd Jun PR4 660 51Q 31V (only a week left for my test, taken leave from office, English needs to improve… going through SC(accuracy 60 %) and getting 3/10 questions wrong in the beginning.
25th Jun GMAT Prep 670 51Q 28V (got my timing horribly wrong in an attempt to improve on my accuracy in the initial questions)
27th Jun PR5 660 51Q 31V (got my timing perfect… but couple of silly mistakes in my Verbal first ten questions… Sentence Correction still at 60% accuracy)
Only 3 more days to go for THE TEST, so I decided to concentrate on sentence correction. I went through all the rules I had noted down during my study, did 251 questions in OG 11 and Verbal review put together. This was because I realised that the earlier mistakes I might have made were because I didn’t quite remember some rules. I had a GMAT Prep 2 to give but decided not to because I was pretty tensed a couple of days before the test and didn’t want to add onto that. But at the same time I was pretty confident with my timing and the strategy I had learned and concentrating through out the test.

On the day of the TEST
Things went just the way it was to be (except for the end of course). The stress during the test is very less when compared to what I had anticipated. AWA went very well (that’s what I hope, haven’t got my scores yet). Unlike what I was told, the breaks in between the Sections are 10 minutes and not 5 minutes. So there is enough time for snacks and restroom etc. Math was OK, similar to the OG questions. Here I should tell you that I had anticipated tougher questions etc after reading the blogs of earlier test takers. There were a few tricky ones that at the first look would mislead you. I didn’t get time to answer the last question and perhaps that’s what cost me a point in Quant. Verbal started pretty ok couldn’t find any obvious hard questions. Its level of complexity never seemed to vary. (Well, later the test scores did tell me why!). I don’t remember guessing any answers upfront etc and was pretty confident throughout the Verbal Section. The 1st RC question was related to business (a little tricky one) but felt I had done well in it. At the end as I clicked the next button for my Test Score was expecting 690- 700, but to my disappointment got 630 with 25 in Verbal, the lowest ever. I can’t figure out where I went wrong or how could I have prepared better.

Currently, I am planning to give it another try in a month or so… but with no clue as to what I can do better. I don’t know if retaking the test is a good idea. Please help my out here… Should I be applying for lower colleges with these scores or retake the test? Frankly at this moment I don’t think I could prepare this well again especially with the constantly increasing work load at office.
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by cubicle_bound_misfit » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:49 am
Jonathan,

I really feel sad for you. I am yet to take my exams and so can not be considered a specialist but, after going thru thousands of success/failure stories I can recommend you five steps

[ assumption : 1. you have to work on five sub sections CR,RC,SC,PS,DS.
2. You have 2 hrs to give everyday + 5-6 hrs on each days of weekend
3. You have following books/notes in electronic/physical format :
OG-11, OG-10, OG-Verbal Rvw ,Manhattan Sentence Correction,GMAT 800,Beat the gmat flash card, SAHIL/SPIDEY's SC notes


]

step 1: Everyday try to give a timed test of at least 3 sections. (i.e. 20 questions of SC,20 questions of RC, 20 qs of PS etc...but it should be timed)
step 2: Whatever question you get wrong find them if it was conceptual or silly mistake. If conceptual get back to basics.

step 3: Complete manhattan SC at least twice with all the OG/OG-VRVW questions as listed at the end of chapters

Step 4: Take at least 4 MGMAT and 4 GMATPREP with complete analysis for conceptual/silly mistakes.
Step 5: Stop reading 'I just beat the Gmat' section :wink: and better try to solve as many questions as you can from Verbal/Qa sections in this forum.

This is my strategy and I am, to borrow from Curt Cobain , heavily "burried and married" in my work and also in my family still trying to stumble but not to fall.

Please let me know if you find this useful.


regards,
Cubicle Bound Misfit

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Thanks for the reply...

by jonathan graham » Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:52 pm
Hi Cubicle Bound Misfit,
Thank you very much for the reply. In retrospection, I believe that perhaps timing the OG practises and a detail post test analysis might have helped. Giving the Verbal section afresh and giving it after 2 and half hours of the test also does make a difference (I thought I had settled this issue before the test though). I am looking to get new material for Sentence Correction and Reading Comprehension (thinking of getting Manhattan Review).
All the very best for your GMAT. Hope you do very well. I have spent so much effort for GMAT, now need to catchup with friends, work and life. Will take a break from GMAT and regroup couple of weeks later. Thank you once again.

Regards,
Jon

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In the same Situation.............

by bhavyabhandari » Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:56 am
Hey there..
Guess am dere in the same boat with 640:( (Q 49, V 28)
I gave the test a day back and faced the same situation as yours in the Verbal Section.. It seemed to be faring off pretty well until the score got reflected.
Am confused as to whether give it another shot or give a shot in the application process.
In how much time can we re-take the GMAT?

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What is with 25 verbal?

by matg800 » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:38 pm
Guys..I have seen quite a few people face a similar situation. High Quant scores and a 25 in verbal.

I had exactly the same situation with Qunat 48 and my I felt that my verbal was going very well and finished with guessing the last 2. I always socred in mid 30's and touched 40+ also during practice.

I am a native speaker and have never scored so poorly in verbal. Am really confused and somehow keep thinking that there has to be a bug with the software.

Going to attempt it again for sure. I have a pretty strong workex / people management / analytical experience. Any ideas on how many schools look at average score Vs highest score in retakes?

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I took my gmat yesterday and ended up scoring a meagre 620
V25 Q49. :cry:
During the course of my preparation i was doing consistently well in quant which reflects in my GMAT score ...though I found the level of complexity in Quant higher than my expectation.

To be very frank I dint get a clue of what happened in verbal,
Rcs were simple..but the questions were tough ..
CR .. I am not sure if I performed well in them ....
SCs... This I guess is the deciding factor ... it can make or break your GMAT...i have never been good at it ....People say Manhattan Scs is bible...but the Bible dint work out for me...I guess I need a religion transformation and go for some other religious book :) ....as I found many questions ... which were alien to the concepts in Manhattan SC.I could not mark even a single SC question confidently and feel 16/16 could have gone wrong...

I was scoring 650-750 in gmat prep ...and even with a score of 720 in gmat prp tst...i could analyse i was making an average of 15-16 mistakes in verbal ,only difference was i was making majority of those mistake in the end.

Iguess in the GMAT, i made misakes at rgular intervals in verbal. Also by the timei reached verbal.. I could feel my energy drained out.....

I havent taken any coaching,but going to enroll in Kaplan today.I will retake it in couple of months....Somebody help me with verbal

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by navidnikoo » Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:16 am
I took the GMAT last Thursday and I have same situations.

I studied 2.5 months for GMAT and my gmatperp scores were not bad ( 670- 710 ), but my real score was 620 (Q50, V23!!!)

I realized that the new GMAT questions are in a sensible level harder than OG 12 and OG verbal 2nd ones...:(

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by Bansamit » Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:01 am
hey all - seems like a common trend here. I took the GMAT about 2 weeks ago, and had the exact same scenario. I'm a native English speaker, my practices scores ranged from 620-720. One thing which I've realized after studying for several months now is that verbal is a feel-good section. Whenever you pick an answer you almost always think it's the best answer. In Quant, with the exception of data sufficiency, it's more black and white. You usually have to try to solve for a specific value, or determine if the information present is enough to get the right answer (I.e. X can either be 3 or 4)

Moving on ... I'm not sure if this is the right approach or not, but I've decided to become very methodical for Verbal for my next month of studying. Don't disregard math, because you want to maintain confidence in that section. I'm going through the powerscore CR bible, which has actually been really helpful. For SC, everyone says this but I'm not sure how many people actually do this, when you pick your answer make sure you know why you're NOT picking the other answers. On test day, I don't know about you guys but for me, all the strategies which I had in place before the exam seem to go out the window due to anxiety and stress.

Even though they are both VERY different sections, I think if you start treating CR as a logic game and SC as a "formula," it just might help pick up some of the weak verbal scores.

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by kvcpk » Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:39 am
Hi All,

Verbal is definitely a challenge for non-native speakers. To some extent for Native speakers too. I had the same issue of right approach to Verbal. Believe me, I spent 3 months of preparation with out right approach and always was wondering why my score never crossed 30. After Lot of analysis, I recommend the following:
CR - Powerscore for theory and Veritas Prep for practice problems.
There are certain standard patterns found normally. Once you practice these patterns, the hit ratio increases.

RC - Veritas Prep book is good for theory and practice. You can try your hand on some LSAT passages also for more practice.
Only trick here is : PRACTICE. some of the CR approaches will help here. You can watch a couple of the Thursdays with Ron videos which discuss the main point and purpose questions. these will help.

Next comes the tricky section: SC

Reason I say its tricky is because, it takes constant & continuous practice to master. and once mastered, it can turn out to be easily high scoring section. If you dont master it, no matter how many tests we take, we cant find distinct improvement.

I started with some notes on Web and forums. As adviced by many, I bought the Manhattan GMAT SC book. This book is a very good one. But, I dont think it addresses naive readers precisely. I had troubles going through it because, loads of information is presented, leaving less scope to hold anything at the back of mind. I felt happy when I read the book. But I was unable to apply my learning at the right place. I think this is the exact point where MGMAT SC fails to make presence.

Then I was adviced by a fellow BTG member (gmatmachoman) to join e-GMAT.com
I joined for free and had a look at the free preview files. I was very much impressed by the illustrative way of learning with flash presentations all through the course. I was able to retain much information because the course is illustrative style. I was amazed to find all the concepts that I learnt till then in a single place. It took me 3 months to prepare some notes and I found all of it right there. So, without wasting much time I got the full access to the course.

Here is my analysis. The main Plus points of E-Gmat course:
1. The course provides a standard process to approach SC questions. I couldnt find such comprehensive approach in any other materials.
2. Amazingly quick responses to queries. There is a questions section for each of the subject modules. We can post the queries there. I posted around 20 till now, and for all of them I got response under 12 hours. I wonder in what timezone e-gmat works.
3. There are a set of application files which can be used for non-timed practice. these have a detailed explanation of the approach that needs to be followed to attack SC.
4. There is a set of 200+ questions for timed practice. All new & fresh questions. Highly recommended for practice.
5. Concept Map - which shows the list of concepts you have mastered and which are yet to be mastered.
6. Very Crisp videos without loading too much information. Easy to access user interface.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you need further information.

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by maalolan » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:42 pm
I gave my GMAT yesterday (11th nov ) and got a 630 (Q40 V36 ) :(

I cudnt complete 2 qs in Verbal and guessed answers for the 3 qs before them . Should have managed time in a better way .

And my Quant was a disaster . I could never cross 40 even in my practice xams . Any suggestions for improving the Quant score ?