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Svedankae: Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts; Posts: 101; Joined: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:30 am; Thanked: 2 times; GMAT Score:750

by Svedankae » Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:53 am

Having lost his sight to sustained eyestrain, John Milton nevertheless composed Paradise Lost, considered by many to be the greatest English epic.

1. ...

2. With his sight lost to sustained eyestrain

3. Blinded by sustained eyestrain

4. Having been blinded by excessive eyestrain

5. Blinded with sustained eyestrain

What do you guys think?

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by ershovici » Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:56 am

I dont know for sure but for me the third option looks the best one

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pradeepsarathy: Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts; Posts: 87; Joined: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:12 amFollowed by: 1 member; Location: Secaucus, New Jersey; Thanked: 3 times; GMAT Score:700

by pradeepsarathy » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:01 am

IMO C

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by fltingley » Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:04 am

Having lost his sight to sustained eyestrain, John Milton nevertheless composed Paradise Lost, considered by many to be the greatest English epic.

I think the key to this sentence is finding the best companion with "nevertheless"...

1. ... = unidiomatic. You don't lose your eyesight TO something, but rather because/by/etc.

2. With his sight lost to sustained eyestrain = "with" does not jive with "nevertheless"

3. Blinded by sustained eyestrain = jives with nevertheless and is short and concise.

4. Having been blinded by excessive eyestrain = works with "nevertheless" but is wordy and awkward

5. Blinded with sustained eyestrain = you're not blinded "with" eyestrain. This is both unidiomatic and could imply that JM was blinded ALONGSIDE eyestrain. Eliminate.

I say C.

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by raunekk » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:17 am

I will go with A..

I dont feel there is anything wrong with A...

A - uses a perfect Adverbial clause

Moreover, his ( pronoun) is properly modified by Milton.

Let me know if anyone doesn't think the same...

thanks.

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by shahdevine » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:25 am

raunekk wrote:I will go with A..

I dont feel there is anything wrong with A...

A - uses a perfect Adverbial clause

Moreover, his ( pronoun) is properly modified by Milton.

Let me know if anyone doesn't think the same...

thanks.

feel the same..nothing wrong with this sentence grammatically. if there is nothing wrong with sentence then go with A.

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by catchyblues » Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:14 am

I'll go with 'C' as A,B and D are wordy and E uses the incorrect preposition "With"

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by viju9162 » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:44 am

I will go with "C". The sentence looks precise with option C

"Native of" is used for a individual while "Native to" is used for a large group

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by m&m » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:15 am

the non-underlined portion suggests a set-up for cause and effect.

Despite being blind John nevertheless composed...

Only answers that have this cause-effect are A and E. E should be "blinded BY sustained" not "...WITH..."

I pick A

Hope this helps, what's OA

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by heshamelaziry » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:18 am

OK...I think that both A and C choices are correct. However, choice A fits more with the purpose of the sentence, which is to show how amazing the subject of the sentence is.

Choice C will work if the writer intends to discuss something related directly to his blindness.

In other words, A shows more emotion that is needed !!!

Let me know.

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HI

by siddharth rastogi » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:42 pm

IMO C

OA PLEASE?

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by thailandvc » Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:17 am

it's C.

Anybody use Kaplan as a resource for SC? I find that they are very confusing and too disimilar to OG and MGMAT. I think working with Kaplan SC has actually screwed me up on SC. I feel that they have too many rules and the rules are sometimes not even consistent. Anybody else feel the same way?

Ex:

Having forfeited her severance package in order to keep the rights to her intellectual property, it was believed by the employee that she had won a moral victory.

B)She believed that she had won a moral victory
C)The employee believed that she had won a moral victory
D)Wrong answer
E) Wrong answer

B or C? According to Kaplan, C is correct because "the employee" was used/modified in the original sentence. What? "she believed" is shorter and sweeter and not confusing.

Althoguh if you really stretch it, it could argued that the second she can refer to another person. But that is really stretching it. If you apply this same level of pickyness to their other questions you will actually get it wrong. I feel that there is a lack of consistency in Kaplan questions when dealing with "clarity and concision."

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by heshamelaziry » Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:30 am

thailandvc wrote:it's C.

Anybody use Kaplan as a resource for SC? I find that they are very confusing and too disimilar to OG and MGMAT. I think working with Kaplan SC has actually screwed me up on SC. I feel that they have too many rules and the rules are sometimes not even consistent. Anybody else feel the same way?

Ex:

Having forfeited her severance package in order to keep the rights to her intellectual property, it was believed by the employee that she had won a moral victory.

B)She believed that she had won a moral victory
C)The employee believed that she had won a moral victory
D)Wrong answer
E) Wrong answer

B or C? According to Kaplan, C is correct because "the employee" was used/modified in the original sentence. What? "she believed" is shorter and sweeter and not confusing.

Althoguh if you really stretch it, it could argued that the second she can refer to another person. But that is really stretching it. If you apply this same level of pickyness to their other questions you will actually get it wrong. I feel that there is a lack of consistency in Kaplan questions when dealing with "clarity and concision.

Kaplan material are the most difficult in all areas and not supplied with clear consistent answers.
I got Power score SC Bible, but didn't seem to help much as the explanations in the 12th edition OG.

Do you know think I should get the verbal official guide ?

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thailandvc: Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts; Posts: 49; Joined: Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:18 am

by thailandvc » Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:16 am

Anything officially from GMAC is the best in my opinion. Although the explanation is incredibly vague you can often look up the rules applied from other sources and they are 100% correct, unambigiously.

Here's my opinion on Kaplan's SC materials. They are not meant to be used standalone. In fact, I think they are used to get people to come take the class or for people aspiring to achieve a 600 score.

I'm sorry for being cynical but I feel that they are overly picky (to make you feel inadaquate and take the class). If you were to apply the same level "pickiness" to OG stuff, you'll find that it's a total waste of time. Yout got 1.5 minutes, you can't afford to waste time looking for things that are not tested.

Furthermore, some of explanation are incredibly poor. Everytime I get a question wrong, I learn something new. With Kaplan's materials, I often go away asking "what the hell did actually learn?" Sadly nothing. I just know that I got the question wrong. However, I am sure all the nuances will be explained in the class. You get what you pay for.

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by heshamelaziry » Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:59 am

thailandvc wrote:Anything officially from GMAC is the best in my opinion. Although the explanation is incredibly vague you can often look up the rules applied from other sources and they are 100% correct, unambigiously.

Here's my opinion on Kaplan's SC materials. They are not meant to be used standalone. In fact, I think they are used to get people to come take the class or for people aspiring to achieve a 600 score.

I'm sorry for being cynical but I feel that they are overly picky (to make you feel inadaquate and take the class). If you were to apply the same level "pickiness" to OG stuff, you'll find that it's a total waste of time. Yout got 1.5 minutes, you can't afford to waste time looking for things that are not tested.

Furthermore, some of explanation are incredibly poor. Everytime I get a question wrong, I learn something new. With Kaplan's materials, I often go away asking "what the hell did actually learn?" Sadly nothing. I just know that I got the question wrong. However, I am sure all the nuances will be explained in the class. You get what you pay for.

I am learning SC rules by repetition from OG and from question on this forum,and I feel quite a bit of improvement.
I would appreciate it much if you can give me your thoughts on the following:

Who publishes the SC 1000 and what do you think about it ?

I studied powerscore CR book and did all CR material in the OG. I plan to go over all CR section in OG again and take few free LSAT exams online. What is more worth studying in CR ?

I feel that the Data Suffeceincy quetions in OG are quite more difficult than Problem solving!! Am I correct or it is me ?

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