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by rohit9359 » Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:14 pm
Q. Marketing researchers have found that, because many residents of the Southeast do not share the same ethnic heritage as Northeasterners, the two varieties of commercially prepared coleslaw most popular in New York City and Boston are virtually ignored by consumers in Richmond and Raleigh.
(A) because many residents of the Southeast do not share the same ethnic heritage as
(B) because many residents of the Southeast do not share the same ethnic heritage with
(C) because many residents of the Southeast do not have the same ethnic heritage as
(D) due to many residents of the Southeast not sharing the same ethnic heritage with
(E) whereas many residents of the Southeast do not share the same ethnic heritage as
OA is [spoiler](C)[/spoiler]. Could someone explain please? Why not [spoiler](B)[/spoiler]?
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by dgr8onerip » Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:01 pm
I, too, am of the opinion that B is the right option
but C is not wrong either
i tried checking it on the net too
people share an ethnic background with others..- is grammatically correct option
the other usage is of 'as' is also correct

but the main reason i support B is that in C it states-
Northies have the same ethnic background as southies. the usage of 'as' is confusing because like would be better word while comparing ppl(nouns)
northies, like southies, have...
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by hitmewithgmat » Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:29 am
idiom
the same....as....
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by nervesofsteel » Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:35 am
why A is wrong..??
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by scoobydooby » Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:01 am
A uses a wrong idiom: share..as.
share X with Y is the correct idiom
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by pakaskwa » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:40 am
Hi rohit9359,
What's the source of this question?

To me, choice C has a major problem:
(C) because many residents of the Southeast do not have the same ethnic heritage as
Normally the construction should be:
"I have the same thing as he does."
NOT "I have the same thing as he."

IMO, answer is B too.

Anybody has a good explanation?
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by rohit9359 » Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:20 pm
Source of Q: 1000 SCs, Q. 504. (B) or (C) guys?

Thanks,
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by rs2010 » Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:46 am
I would go with C because backgroud is something that I have.

Since north and south do not have common thing that's why Z.

Since I am comparing 2 clauses so I need 'as' and out of A and C, C is better strucutured.

We need 'because' so D and E are out of the picture.
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by gmat740 » Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:48 pm
Guys what is wrong with B?
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by Kunal_gmat » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:13 pm
I ruled out (D) and (E) like everybody. But was really stuck with (A), (B) and (C).

Then I focused on the differences:

(A) share the same...as
(B) share the same...with
(C) have the same...as

The meaning is subtle but one of importance. The "residents" in question here are not sharing the heritage. The either have it or don't. Hence, using the word share is inappropriate. The safest option is (C).
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by Domnu » Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:21 pm
How do you use share... with in a sentence? I'm betting that using share... with in this case is incorrect.
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by jainrahul1985 » Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:48 pm
Hello Experts ,
Can you please throw some light on this question .
(A) is wrong because it should look like "do not share the same ethnic heritage as do "
(B) should be correct choice
(C)I believe Same X as Y is wrong comparison .

which choice is the best .
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by Geva@EconomistGMAT » Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:01 pm
An interesting question. Difficult, too, as it relies on subtle idioms which change the meaning slightly.

Consider the following uses of share:

We shared the same bread, as did the rubens

a single "as" is commonly use to compare actions. The sentence above means that we shared the same bread amongst us, which is the same thing the rubens did - they shared the same bread amongst themselves. Note that in this case, it doesn't necessarily mean we all shared the same bread together. The comparison is of the action of sharing: we shared, as did they share. This is similar to what's happening with A: the "as" implies comparing actions, which is why some of the commentators above felt that a "did" or "do" is missing in A. It is grammatically correct (although it will be better with the added "do"), just a different meaning from the one the sentence is trying to convey.

I will share my bread with you (meaning I will give you some of my bread). this is the equivalent of answer choice B. Share...with carries the meaning of sharing what you have with someone else , not that the two of you share the same thing together. Again, grammatically correct, just the wrong meaning: it's not that the southerners share their heritage with the northerners (i.e "give" them some of their heritage, like sharing bread), but rather that the two groups share the same heritage.

The ideal version of the sentence using "share" would've been

because many residents of the Southeast do not share the Northeasterners's ethnic heritage

But both A and B use different idioms of share, with different meanings.
Therefore, we are left with C, which carries the same meaning without "share", as the right answer.
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by GMATGuruNY » Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:28 am
rohit9359 wrote:Q. Marketing researchers have found that, because many residents of the Southeast do not share the same ethnic heritage as Northeasterners, the two varieties of commercially prepared coleslaw most popular in New York City and Boston are virtually ignored by consumers in Richmond and Raleigh.
(A) because many residents of the Southeast do not share the same ethnic heritage as
(B) because many residents of the Southeast do not share the same ethnic heritage with
(C) because many residents of the Southeast do not have the same ethnic heritage as
(D) due to many residents of the Southeast not sharing the same ethnic heritage with
(E) whereas many residents of the Southeast do not share the same ethnic heritage as
OA is [spoiler](C)[/spoiler]. Could someone explain please? Why not [spoiler](B)[/spoiler]?
I received a PM asking me to comment.

Answer choices A and E:
The word as does not convey the intended meaning of the sentence. As is used to compare actions. Thus, A and E are comparing how the residents of the Southeast share with how the Northeasterners share. The intended meaning of the sentence is to compare the heritage of one group with the heritage of the other group.
Eliminate A and E.

Answer choice B:
The phrase share the same X does not convey the intended meaning of the sentence. To share the same heritage implies that the heritage has been shared previously and that the same heritage is being shared again.
Eliminate B.

Answer choice D:
The use of due to is incorrect. If due to cannot be replaced with the words caused by, eliminate the answer choice.
Eliminate D.

The correct answer is C.
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by lunarpower » Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:18 am
aaahhh, 1000sc again.
1000sc is crap. burn it, smile while you watch it burn, and then run away.
by and large, the only questions in 1000sc that are not *horrible* -- in the sense of either (a) testing things that the gmat itself doesn't test, or (b) just being flat-out incorrect -- are the ones that have been lifted from gmat prep.

this problem is an example of (a): it's testing things that won't be tested on the real gmat.

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nevertheless, here's a quick summary, if you're curious. (note that this kind of thing will *not* be tested.)

* the correct answer contains "same ... as ..."; that's an extremely common idiom, which you guys on here probably all know.

* "share ... with ..." can refer to either
(1) physically sharing something (i shared the pizza with rachel)
or
(2) metaphorically sharing something (colombia and ecuador share much of their musical heritage. colombia shares much of its musical heritage with ecuador.).
** HOWEVER **
this construction does not use the word "same"; that usage is redundant and therefore incorrect.

the only situation in which you could use "share ... with" along with "same" would be a situation in which "same" refers to something from an earlier clause or sentence.
e.g.
marco and james are living in room 213 this year; i shared the same room with my roommate last year.
--> this is correct, because "same" is *NOT* part of the idiomatic construction; it refers to room 213 (the *same* room in which marco and james lived last year).

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EDIT:
this is the last post on page 1. please click over to page 2, on which i've posted further discussion about the meaning of "share" (as there is some misinformation posted above).
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