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by [email protected] » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:51 pm
A controversial figure throughout most of his public life, the Black leader Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.

[A] that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.

that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him.

[C] that some Blacks return to Africa which was the land which symbolized the possibility of freedom to him.

[D] some Black's returning to Africa which was the land that to him symbolized the possibility of freedom.

[E] some Black's return to the land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him, Africa.


The OA given is A.

I had a confusion between A and B, please could anybody help... its urgent!!!
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by yourshail123 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:13 am
**Please make sure to underline the appropriate part of the sentence** :)

A controversial figure throughout most of his public life, the Black leader Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.

[A] that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.

that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him.

[C] that some Blacks return to Africa which was the land which symbolized the possibility of freedom to him.

[D] some Black's returning to Africa which was the land that to him symbolized the possibility of freedom.

[E] some Black's return to the land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him, Africa.


Option A) the summative modifier inside the comma ('the land that') doesn't modify the noun idea (Africa) logically and clearly. The context of the sentence needs usage of either only 'Africa' or African land.
Correct Answer is [spoiler]B)[/spoiler] is clear and concise.

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by naveenchandra kv » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:48 am
If you see the structure of the sentence, Markus advocated that some blacks return to africa and africa is the land that symbolized the possibility of freedom.

It does not say that return of blacks symbolises the freedom as explained in the answer B. Its all about meaning here.

Option B changes the meaning of the sentence by indicating that return of blacks to the african land symbolizes freedom which is not true as per Markus idea.

So always understand the meaning before approaching the problem.

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by patanjali.purpose » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:48 pm
[email protected] wrote:A controversial figure throughout most of his public life, the Black leader Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.

[A] that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.

that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him.


IMO "FREEDOM TO HIM" in B suggests that sentence is talking about FREEDOM OF BLACK LEADER. The placement of TO HIM as a non-essential modifier avoids such confusion in A.

Secondly, the use of SYMBOLIZED as a verb in A suggests that MARUS viewed something in past. But the use of SYMBOLIZING has a degree of CONTINUITY in present as well (changing meaning)

Thirdly, THE LAND THAT SYMBOLIZED THE POSSIBILITY is used a modifier to AFRICA, referring to entire land of AFRICA. The use of THE AFRICAN LAND in my view does not carry same connotation.

IMO A

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by GMATGuruNY » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:28 pm
[email protected] wrote:A controversial figure throughout most of his public life, the Black leader Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.

[A] that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.

that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him.

[C] that some Blacks return to Africa which was the land which symbolized the possibility of freedom to him.

[D] some Black's returning to Africa which was the land that to him symbolized the possibility of freedom.

[E] some Black's return to the land symbolizing the possibility of freedom to him, Africa.


The OA given is A.

I had a confusion between A and B, please could anybody help... its urgent!!!


B: Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom.
Here, the modifier is RESTRICTIVE.
It describes a return to ONE SPECIFIC African land: the African Land SYMBOLIZING THE POSSIBILITY OF FREEDOM.
The implication is that there are OTHER African lands to which people NEED NOT RETURN.
Not the intended meaning.

A: Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that symbolized the possibility of freedom.
Here, the modifier is NON-RESTRICTIVE.
It simply offers NON-ESSENTIAL information about Africa:
Africa, the land that symbolized the possibility of freedom.
This conveys the intended meaning: that some people should return to AFRICA -- not one specific African land, but the ENTIRE CONTINENT.
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by tanviet » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:19 am
in B, "freedom to him" changes the meaning. in A, the meaning is"to him, African land symbolizes fredom" .

is my thinking correct?

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by nisagl750 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:08 pm
GMATGuruNY wrote: B: Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to the African land symbolizing the possibility of freedom.
Here, the modifier is RESTRICTIVE.
It describes a return to ONE SPECIFIC African land: the African Land SYMBOLIZING THE POSSIBILITY OF FREEDOM.
The implication is that there are OTHER African lands to which people NEED NOT RETURN.
Not the intended meaning.

A: Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that symbolized the possibility of freedom.
Here, the modifier is NON-RESTRICTIVE.
It simply offers NON-ESSENTIAL information about Africa:
Africa, the land that symbolized the possibility of freedom.
This conveys the intended meaning: that some people should return to AFRICA -- not one specific African land, but the ENTIRE CONTINENT.
I was struck between A & C
Can you please explain what is wrong with C?
Is it just wordy? Or there is some other solid reasoning to eliminate it?

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by avik.ch » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:17 pm
nisagl750 wrote:I was struck between A & C
Can you please explain what is wrong with C?
Is it just wordy? Or there is some other solid reasoning to eliminate it?
"which" has limited application in GMAT -
1. for non-essential modifier
2. as an object of a perposition.

in C --- "which" is used for essential modifier, Eliminate.


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