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690 - Huge split verbal and quant

by spanner11 » Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:16 pm
Hi Folks,

Have been a silent observer of this website for the last month and have found it very helpful so thanks for that. I would like to ask for some further advice...

I took the test yesterday and was targeting 700-720 as wish to go to a top european b school.

Scored a 690 which was pretty close to my target score and I suppose a good score but my split really dissapointed me (41Q (58th%ile) and 44 V (97%ile)).

My undergraduate degree is in law and i have been practising as a corporate lawyer for 3-4 years so my verbal score was not a surprize. Its what I do every day all day.

I was gutted with the quant score though - had been doing much better in practice tests and recognised it as my weakness so worked at it. Although I didnt do any quant subjects in university i was in the 95th percentile in maths at my country's equivalent of the SATs when I was 18 so I know I am well able for quant.

Refreshed my self with some of the manhattan guides and the og. Manhatten were great. Perhaps I naively spent a lot of time on more difficult questions that when it came to the exam becasue of my poor start I never saw questions of that type. thats worth rememberng - you can get a great quant score from covering the basics.

the exam itself I was strangly nervous - which is unusual for me - AWA settled me down and I thought I was ready for quant. I knew if I did wellish in it I would comfortably hit my target score.

The bloody markers annoyed me though!! whats wrong with paper and a pencil???

I started badly yesterday in quant and it kept running away from me and I knew it. I got paniced on questions when I easily knew how to do the q but my ans didnt fit any of the options - that happened a few times and I couldnt believe it.

My deadlines are early December and early January. I am working full time but found time to prepare well ( not well enough) for yesterday so it is feasbile (very unpalatable though) that I resit it. would rather focus on the essays and chasing references etc.

All my ramblings boil down to a few simple q:

Do I need to re-take the test?
Is my low quant a huge liability?
If I shot 700 or 720 but still with a huge split am I in a similar boat?
What is an acceptable quant score for a top school assuming that the verbal brings the overall to 700+?
I imagine it is 80%ile?

What is the situation for people who have a big split the other way - does a lower verbal score hinder them?

am I clutching at straws or dreaming that the fact I did well on my Maths SAT years ago will help mitigate this?

To conclude Im happy that I gave the Gmat a good rattle but feel that I really underperformed compared to what I am capable of. I can easily get over that if I can get into b school with this score. end justifies the means etc but i really feel that my current quant score will sink my applications.
Your thoughts and advice are much appreciated..

thanks

keep up the good work..

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by ashokkadam » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:13 pm
@spanner11,
You seem to have contemplated your case very well. Firstly let me tell you that 690 is a fantastic score and most of the top b-schools would appreciate that.

To answer your questions...
Do I need to re-take the test?

---As you mentioned you were targeting 700-720, that might be the average scores of the b-schools of your choice. If you retake and you think that you can improve your score by 50 odd points, then it is worth retaking, otherwise your present score is just fine for b-schools of your choice.

Is my low quant a huge liability?
---You quant scores indicates a red flag to the adcom. B-schools really want to see a good quant score because a good quant score indicates that the candidate will be able to handle the quantitative subjects that include accounting, calculus, financials, etc.. Try to back up/convince the adcom with something that you would certainly do well, even though you have bit low quant score in GMAT.

If I shot 700 or 720 but still with a huge split am I in a similar boat?
-- 700+ score is psychologically a solid and a positive score to impress the adcom, However, adcom looks at your overall profile of which GMAT is only a small part. I think 700 will put you in the same boat whereas anything with >720 you will be at advantage.

What is an acceptable quant score for a top school assuming that the verbal brings the overall to 700+?
I imagine it is 80%ile?

--Top schools want to see a balanced score with at least 75 percentiles in each section.

What is the situation for people who have a big split the other way - does a lower verbal score hinder them?

-- This is a good question. Most of the test takers have a lower verbal score than their quant scores, which is not the cases with you. The split up of your score is rare to find. With overall score of close to 700, for an applicant whose first language is not English, a lower verbal score that quant score might be still Ok.

In sum, if you seriously think that you underperformed then book the date for retake and you will not regret retaking.
spanner11 wrote:Hi Folks,

Have been a silent observer of this website for the last month and have found it very helpful so thanks for that. I would like to ask for some further advice...

I took the test yesterday and was targeting 700-720 as wish to go to a top european b school.

Scored a 690 which was pretty close to my target score and I suppose a good score but my split really dissapointed me (41Q (58th%ile) and 44 V (97%ile)).

My undergraduate degree is in law and i have been practising as a corporate lawyer for 3-4 years so my verbal score was not a surprize. Its what I do every day all day.

I was gutted with the quant score though - had been doing much better in practice tests and recognised it as my weakness so worked at it. Although I didnt do any quant subjects in university i was in the 95th percentile in maths at my country's equivalent of the SATs when I was 18 so I know I am well able for quant.

Refreshed my self with some of the manhattan guides and the og. Manhatten were great. Perhaps I naively spent a lot of time on more difficult questions that when it came to the exam becasue of my poor start I never saw questions of that type. thats worth rememberng - you can get a great quant score from covering the basics.

the exam itself I was strangly nervous - which is unusual for me - AWA settled me down and I thought I was ready for quant. I knew if I did wellish in it I would comfortably hit my target score.

The bloody markers annoyed me though!! whats wrong with paper and a pencil???

I started badly yesterday in quant and it kept running away from me and I knew it. I got paniced on questions when I easily knew how to do the q but my ans didnt fit any of the options - that happened a few times and I couldnt believe it.

My deadlines are early December and early January. I am working full time but found time to prepare well ( not well enough) for yesterday so it is feasbile (very unpalatable though) that I resit it. would rather focus on the essays and chasing references etc.

All my ramblings boil down to a few simple q:

Do I need to re-take the test?
Is my low quant a huge liability?
If I shot 700 or 720 but still with a huge split am I in a similar boat?
What is an acceptable quant score for a top school assuming that the verbal brings the overall to 700+?
I imagine it is 80%ile?

What is the situation for people who have a big split the other way - does a lower verbal score hinder them?

am I clutching at straws or dreaming that the fact I did well on my Maths SAT years ago will help mitigate this?

To conclude Im happy that I gave the Gmat a good rattle but feel that I really underperformed compared to what I am capable of. I can easily get over that if I can get into b school with this score. end justifies the means etc but i really feel that my current quant score will sink my applications.
Your thoughts and advice are much appreciated..

thanks

keep up the good work..

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by outreach » Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:30 am
but some schools do check for the split....
in one of the mba fair i was told that if can compensate ur low quant score by taking some certification in statistics(the adcom did not tell which one)..so i think u need to check with the school that u want to apply
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by ps37 » Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:29 pm
I had a similar score but coming from a bit of a different background in that I am an Engineer by education, working with finance!

I consider myself to be very good in all things quant (i.e., stochastic calculus, probability theory, etc) but did not do well on the quant side of the GMAT. I have sat for 3 times and the best I got was 43q (65%) and 700 total, with 95% on the verbal part (also not a native English speaker). I am terribly frustrated that I could not improve the quant side of my gmat and don't know if it would be worth it sitting again seeing as I have a 700 (which might or not be enough for my target top 10 schools...). Any thoughts? I would be particularly interested in learning how the adcom's would interpret a low quant score from a Mechanical Engineer...

Thanks in advance.