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by piyush_nitt » Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:05 pm
pls help
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Source: — Data Sufficiency |

by nehakhas1 » Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:53 pm
The answer should be E .
a) forms a quadaratic equation on multiplication thus will not give any unique value . Insuff .
b) forms a quadaratic equation on multiplication thus will not give any unique value . Insuff .
c) to check if they work in combination .first look that 3r+3-s is common in both equations . Thus if you divide both the equations you find
4r+9-s=4r-6-s.Thus ,r and s both get cancelled in the equation .and even both the equations fail to provide the answer .

thus ans should be E
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by piyush_nitt » Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:19 am
nehakhas1 wrote:The answer should be E .
a) forms a quadaratic equation on multiplication thus will not give any unique value . Insuff .
b) forms a quadaratic equation on multiplication thus will not give any unique value . Insuff .
c) to check if they work in combination .first look that 3r+3-s is common in both equations . Thus if you divide both the equations you find
4r+9-s=4r-6-s.Thus ,r and s both get cancelled in the equation .and even both the equations fail to provide the answer .

thus ans should be E
Neha,

Thats not a correct answer

Anyone pls ??
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by DanaJ » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:04 am
If the line with the equation y = 3x + 2 contains the point (r,s), then this equivalent to s = 3r + 2. If we ca prove that, then we're home free.
1. this equation equals 0 only if one or both of the two paranteses are equal to 0. So we get:
If 3r + 2 - s = 0, which is equivalent to s = 3r + 2, then indeed the poin is on the said line.
But this could not be the case. If 4r + 9 - s = 0 but 3r + 2 - s does not equal 0, then the point is noton the line. So 1 is not sufficient.

2. using the same line of thought as before, 2 is insufficient as well.

But if we take the two equations togethere, then it is clear that only if 3r + 2 - s = 0 do they both equal 0, because if we were to consider 4r + 9 - s = 4r - 6 -s = 0, then we get that 9 = -6, which is obviously false. So answer would be C.
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by piyush_nitt » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:17 am
DanaJ wrote:If the line with the equation y = 3x + 2 contains the point (r,s), then this equivalent to s = 3r + 2. If we ca prove that, then we're home free.
1. this equation equals 0 only if one or both of the two paranteses are equal to 0. So we get:
If 3r + 2 - s = 0, which is equivalent to s = 3r + 2, then indeed the poin is on the said line.
But this could not be the case. If 4r + 9 - s = 0 but 3r + 2 - s does not equal 0, then the point is noton the line. So 1 is not sufficient.

2. using the same line of thought as before, 2 is insufficient as well.

But if we take the two equations togethere, then it is clear that only if 3r + 2 - s = 0 do they both equal 0, because if we were to consider 4r + 9 - s = 4r - 6 -s = 0, then we get that 9 = -6, which is obviously false. So answer would be C.
Great Thanks !!
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by sanju09 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:29 am
piyush_nitt wrote:
DanaJ wrote:If the line with the equation y = 3x + 2 contains the point (r,s), then this equivalent to s = 3r + 2. If we ca prove that, then we're home free.
1. this equation equals 0 only if one or both of the two paranteses are equal to 0. So we get:
If 3r + 2 - s = 0, which is equivalent to s = 3r + 2, then indeed the poin is on the said line.
But this could not be the case. If 4r + 9 - s = 0 but 3r + 2 - s does not equal 0, then the point is noton the line. So 1 is not sufficient.

2. using the same line of thought as before, 2 is insufficient as well.

But if we take the two equations togethere, then it is clear that only if 3r + 2 - s = 0 do they both equal 0, because if we were to consider 4r + 9 - s = 4r - 6 -s = 0, then we get that 9 = -6, which is obviously false. So answer would be C.
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B-) :?:

IMO C, with two points to ponder:

1. What made us believe here that 3r + 2 - s does not equal 0? We can take 4r + 9 - s = 4r - 6 - s = 0, only when we are convinced that 3r + 2 - s does not equal 0, because division by zero is not defined. And once we acknowledge 3r + 2 - s does not equal 0, question is answered. How? And what would have been the answer in that situation, links?

2. Moreover, even if the figures would have been meaningful (I mean if we were to take 4r + A - B s = 4r - C - D s = 0, where A, B, C, and D were different real numbers so chosen that it should not lead to a meaningless situation), the answer to this question would still have been C. Why?
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