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by aspirant2011 » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:08 am
Simply because they are genetically engineered does not make it any more likely for plants to become an invasive or persistent weed, according to a decade-long study published in the journal Nature.

(A) because they are genetically engineered does not make it any more likely for plants to

(B) because it is genetically engineered does not make a plant any more likely to

(C) being genetically engineered does not make it any more likely that plants will

(D) being genetically engineered does not make a plant any more likely to

(E) being genetically engineered does not make a plant any more likely that it will become

[spoiler]OA: Why is exactly B wrong?????[/spoiler]
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by vikram4689 » Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:21 am
Well D is more clear and concise than B. Pronoun are not used (normally) before noun (except in dependent clauses)
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by mirantdon » Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:26 am
I am still not clear when is "being " correct ?
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by aspirant2011 » Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:48 am
vikram4689 wrote:Well D is more clear and concise than B. Pronoun are not used (normally) before noun (except in dependent clauses)
Is B wrong just because of pronoun [it] coming before noun??????
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by vikram4689 » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:56 am
aspirant2011 wrote:
vikram4689 wrote:Well D is more clear and concise than B. Pronoun are not used (normally) before noun (except in dependent clauses)
Is B wrong just because of pronoun [it] coming before noun??????
In the presence of D, i'll say yes ;)
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by Jim@Grockit » Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:42 am
mirantdon wrote:I am still not clear when is "being " correct ?
Many cases where "being" is wrong on the GMAT are actually cases where it is simply wordier than other alternatives.

"Being" will be correct on the GMAT when you need to refer to something that doesn't have a similar noun form:
Being happy is not a crime is more or less the same as Happiness is not a crime
Being genetically engineered is not a crime is not the same thing as Genetic engineering is not a crime

"Being" and "having" will also be correct in negative constructions: Go wake them up without being too loud.
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by aspirant2011 » Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:48 am
Jim@Grockit wrote:
mirantdon wrote:I am still not clear when is "being " correct ?
Many cases where "being" is wrong on the GMAT are actually cases where it is simply wordier than other alternatives.

"Being" will be correct on the GMAT when you need to refer to something that doesn't have a similar noun form:
Being happy is not a crime is more or less the same as Happiness is not a crime
Being genetically engineered is not a crime is not the same thing as Genetic engineering is not a crime

"Being" and "having" will also be correct in negative constructions: Go wake them up without being too loud.
Thanks jim for your post, also can you please clear that is vikram right in stating that pronoun shouldn't be used before noun in GMAT????
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by Jim@Grockit » Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:07 am
aspirant2011 wrote:
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mirantdon wrote:I am still not clear when is "being " correct ?
Many cases where "being" is wrong on the GMAT are actually cases where it is simply wordier than other alternatives.

"Being" will be correct on the GMAT when you need to refer to something that doesn't have a similar noun form:
Being happy is not a crime is more or less the same as Happiness is not a crime
Being genetically engineered is not a crime is not the same thing as Genetic engineering is not a crime

"Being" and "having" will also be correct in negative constructions: Go wake them up without being too loud.
Thanks jim for your post, also can you please clear that is vikram right in stating that pronoun shouldn't be used before noun in GMAT????
It definitely happens in dependent clauses (which are VERY COMMON), but a pronoun appearing before a noun in an independent clause should only happen when it's referring to a noun in a previous sentence, which doesn't happen in SC questions.
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by aspirant2011 » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:34 am
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It definitely happens in dependent clauses (which are VERY COMMON), but a pronoun appearing before a noun in an independent clause should only happen when it's referring to a noun in a previous sentence, which doesn't happen in SC questions.[/quote]

Hi Jim,

Can you please share few examples for the above logic..........
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by kevincanspain » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:43 pm
It is very common for English-speakers to say

Just because you are rich doesn't mean that you can boss people around.

However, the subject of a sentence should not begin with 'because'; it is fine, however to begin with (the fact) that or even with a gerund

That you are rich does not mean that you can boss people around
(Your) Being rich does not entitle you to...
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by Ashley@VeritasPrep » Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:39 pm
kevincanspain wrote:It is very common for English-speakers to say

Just because you are rich doesn't mean that you can boss people around.

However, the subject of a sentence should not begin with 'because'; it is fine, however to begin with (the fact) that or even with a gerund

That you are rich does not mean that you can boss people around
(Your) Being rich does not entitle you to...
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Kevin's points are exactly right. Our "because..." phrase in (B) is TRYING to function as a noun, but it can't: "because..." clauses are *adverbial* modifiers, i.e. they play the same roles in sentences as do adverbs, so for practical purposes they *are* adverbs. We need a noun, which is exactly what "the fact that..." is.
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by smackmartine » Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:58 pm
IMO D
I would say when you see three answer choices using "being" ,you should be careful about rejecting choices that have "being" just based on your TRADITIONAL knowledge of "Being is incorrect".
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by ikaplan » Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:49 pm
Whenever I see a sentence like this one

______________________________________, according to X

I first flip the sense. Make it start with:

According to X,_____________________________

B is wrong because the pronoun "it" does not have a clear antecedent.

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by bubbliiiiiiii » Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:50 pm
I remember reading somewhere that when we have a modifier after the statement it modifies we can interchange the statements as under,

According to a decade-long study published in the journal Nature, simply because they are genetically engineered does not make it any more likely for plants to become an invasive or persistent weed.

Rewriting with option D,

According to a decade-long study published in the journal Nature, simply being genetically engineered does not make a plant any more likely to become an invasive or persistent weed.

I felt in D,

being is trying to modify the decade-long study!

I think I am missing something over. Can someone point to what I am mistaken with?
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by tanviet » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:48 am
E is wrong because the idiom should be

make it likely that

make it likely for somebody to do

E is not idiomatic

is that right"
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