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Coordinate Geometry Data Sufficiency Problem

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by saleem.kh » Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:36 am
Does the curve (x - a)^2 + (y - b)^2 = 16 intersect the Y axis?
1) a^2 + b^2 > 16
2) a = |b| + 5


I read this question on another forum but couldn't understand explanation of solution. Can anybody help me to solve it.

Here is the solution,

[spoiler]Given equation is an equation of a circle centered at with radius 4.
 Statement (1) by itself is insufficient. S1 says that the center of the circle is further than 4 units away from the origin but it doesn't specify whether the circle is far enough from the axis not to intersect it.
 Statement (2) by itself is sufficient. From S2 it follows that and thus the center of the circle is at least 5 units away from the axis. As the radius of the circle is only 4
units, we can conclude that the circle does not intersect the axis.
 The correct answer is B. Statement 2 is sufficient.[/spoiler]
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Source: — Data Sufficiency |

by Ian Stewart » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:03 am
saleem.kh wrote:Does the curve (x - a)^2 + (y - b)^2 = 16 intersect the Y axis?
1) a^2 + b^2 > 16
2) a = |b| + 5


I read this question on another forum but couldn't understand explanation of solution. Can anybody help me to solve it.
That solution relies on a knowledge of coordinate geometry far beyond what you need on the GMAT.

In this question, we are asked about y-intercepts. To find y-intercepts, we plug in x=0. So we want to know if there are any solutions to

(0 - a)^2 + (y - b)^2 = 16

a^2 + (y - b)^2 = 16

(y-b)^2 = 16 - a^2

Now, the left side of this equation cannot be negative, since it is a square. So this equation will have no solutions if the right side is negative.

From Statement 1, we have that 16 - a^2 < b^2. So certainly 16-a^2 could be negative, but could also be positive, and we don't know if we have solutions to our equation: not sufficient.

From Statement 2, we know that a = |b| + 5. Since |b| is at least 0, this guarantees that a is at least 5, so we know 16 - a^2 is negative, and the equation (y-b)^2 = 16 - a^2 cannot possibly have a solution. Sufficient - the answer is B.
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by saleem.kh » Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:53 am
Thank you so much.
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by mirantdon » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:53 am
very good question +1 for B.
Try maximizing on the value of a for X axis so that it doesnt touch Y axis .
(Anything greater than the radius of the circle r=4)
try to prove insufficiency ..
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by ruplun » Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:07 am
Can u tell me how are u coming to the conclusion that
From Statement 2, we know that a = |b| + 5. Since |b| is at least 0,..the value of |b| is atleast 0...
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