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by satishchandra » Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:33 am
Except for one class in history and one in biology, all the student's graduation requirements have been fulfilled.

a. Except for one class in history and one in biology, all the student's graduation requirements have been fulfilled.
b. Except for needing to take one class in history and one in biology, the student has fulfilled all of his requirements for graduation.
c. The student has fulfilled all his graduation requirements except for one class in history and one in biology.
d. Except for one history class and one biology class, the student has fulfilled all of his graduation requirements.
e. Aside from the history class and biology class that he needs to take, the student's graduation requirements have all been fulfilled.

As per Kaplan 800, There is some differece in meaning between C and D
Can some one please explain how different meaning is conveyed?

Statement1: The student has fulfilled all his requirements
Statement2: The student has fulfilled all of his requirements
What is the difference in the above two sentences?
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by na123 » Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:25 am
whats the OA
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by chufus » Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:36 am
We don't know if the student is "his" or "her". D uses his explicitly, hence changing the original intent of the sentence. Come to think of it there is nothing wrong with the original sentence. All the 4 options from "B" to "E" use "he" or "his" and are gender specific. The only option that is not gender specific is A and there isn't much wrong with A, so i think the original answer should be "A"

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by satishchandra » Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:19 am
na123 wrote:whats the OA
[spoiler]OA: D[/spoiler]
chufus wrote:We don't know if the student is "his" or "her". D uses his explicitly, hence changing the original intent of the sentence. Come to think of it there is nothing wrong with the original sentence. All the 4 options from "B" to "E" use "he" or "his" and are gender specific. The only option that is not gender specific is A and there isn't much wrong with A, so i think the original answer should be "A"
As per your logic, your answer should be [spoiler]'A'[/spoiler]. why [spoiler]'C'[/spoiler]. ? Even [spoiler]'C'[/spoiler] has the same 'his' 'her' issue :)
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by mankey » Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:12 am
Some expert please help on this one.

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by mskgmat » Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:35 am
a. Except for one class in history and one in biology, all the student's graduation requirements have been fulfilled.
wrong modifier .
b. Except for needing to take one class in history and one in biology, the student has fulfilled all of his requirements for graduation.
Nothing wrong but wordy No modifier error here.
c. The student has fulfilled all his graduation requirements except for one class in history and one in biology.
Wrong place of modifier .
d. Except for one history class and one biology class, the student has fulfilled all of his graduation requirements.
Gramatically correct and stylisly correct one
e. Aside from the history class and biology class that he needs to take, the student's graduation requirements have all been fulfilled.
Wrong modifier. I think you can easily grasp it. Comma has to be followed by student
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by GMATGuruNY » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:33 pm
satishchandra wrote:Except for one class in history and one in biology, all the student's graduation requirements have been fulfilled.

a. Except for one class in history and one in biology, all the student's graduation requirements have been fulfilled.
b. Except for needing to take one class in history and one in biology, the student has fulfilled all of his requirements for graduation.
c. The student has fulfilled all his graduation requirements except for one class in history and one in biology.
d. Except for one history class and one biology class, the student has fulfilled all of his graduation requirements.
e. Aside from the history class and biology class that he needs to take, the student's graduation requirements have all been fulfilled.

As per Kaplan 800, There is some differece in meaning between C and D
Can some one please explain how different meaning is conveyed?

Statement1: The student has fulfilled all his requirements
Statement2: The student has fulfilled all of his requirements
What is the difference in the above two sentences?
I received a PM asking me explain the difference between C and D.

It could be argued that the beginning of C is misleading, implying that the student has fulfilled ALL of his graduation requirements. Only after reading the modifier at the end -- except for one class -- do we understand that the student hasn't quite fulfilled ALL of his graduation requirements.

By placing the EXCEPTION upfront, D avoids any confusion. Right from the beginning, we understand that the student hasn't quite fulfilled ALL of his graduation requirements.
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by jumsumtak » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:32 pm
GMATGuruNY wrote:
satishchandra wrote:Except for one class in history and one in biology, all the student's graduation requirements have been fulfilled.

a. Except for one class in history and one in biology, all the student's graduation requirements have been fulfilled.
b. Except for needing to take one class in history and one in biology, the student has fulfilled all of his requirements for graduation.
c. The student has fulfilled all his graduation requirements except for one class in history and one in biology.
d. Except for one history class and one biology class, the student has fulfilled all of his graduation requirements.
e. Aside from the history class and biology class that he needs to take, the student's graduation requirements have all been fulfilled.

As per Kaplan 800, There is some differece in meaning between C and D
Can some one please explain how different meaning is conveyed?

Statement1: The student has fulfilled all his requirements
Statement2: The student has fulfilled all of his requirements
What is the difference in the above two sentences?
I received a PM asking me explain the difference between C and D.

The beginning of C is misleading, implying that the student has fulfilled ALL of his graduation requirements. Only after reading the modifier at the end -- except for one class -- do we understand that the student hasn't quite fulfilled ALL of his graduation requirements. This ordering of ideas creates confusion.

By placing the EXCEPTION upfront, D avoids this confusion. Right from the beginning, we understand that the student hasn't quite fulfilled ALL of his graduation requirements.
@Mitch:
is A grammatically correct? "have been.." is wordy and passive but is the modifier correctly placed?
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by mskgmat » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:53 am
jumsumtak wrote:
GMATGuruNY wrote:
satishchandra wrote:Except for one class in history and one in biology, all the student's graduation requirements have been fulfilled.

a. Except for one class in history and one in biology, all the student's graduation requirements have been fulfilled.
b. Except for needing to take one class in history and one in biology, the student has fulfilled all of his requirements for graduation.
c. The student has fulfilled all his graduation requirements except for one class in history and one in biology.
d. Except for one history class and one biology class, the student has fulfilled all of his graduation requirements.
e. Aside from the history class and biology class that he needs to take, the student's graduation requirements have all been fulfilled.

As per Kaplan 800, There is some differece in meaning between C and D
Can some one please explain how different meaning is conveyed?

Statement1: The student has fulfilled all his requirements
Statement2: The student has fulfilled all of his requirements
What is the difference in the above two sentences?
I received a PM asking me explain the difference between C and D.

The beginning of C is misleading, implying that the student has fulfilled ALL of his graduation requirements. Only after reading the modifier at the end -- except for one class -- do we understand that the student hasn't quite fulfilled ALL of his graduation requirements. This ordering of ideas creates confusion.

By placing the EXCEPTION upfront, D avoids this confusion. Right from the beginning, we understand that the student hasn't quite fulfilled ALL of his graduation requirements.
@Mitch:
is A grammatically correct? "have been.." is wordy and passive but is the modifier correctly placed?
No. A is not grammatically correct.
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