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by pratikgandhi » Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:34 am
Although William Pereira first gained national recognition for his movie set designs, including those for the 1942 film “Reap the Wild Wind,” future generationsremember him as the architect of the Transamerica Tower, the Malibu campus of Pepperdine University, and the city of Irvine.
(A) including those for the 1942 film “Reap the Wild Wind,” future generations
(B) like that for the 1942 film “Reap the Wild Wind,” future generations will
(C) like those for the 1942 film “Reap the Wild Wind,” future generations
(D)including that for the 1942 film “Reap the Wild Wind,” future generations
will
(E) including those for the 1942 film “Reap the Wild Wind,” future generations
will
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by SanjeevK » Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:48 am
IMO E:

"future generation remember him" is wrong. It should be "future generations will remember him" (future tense). Eliminate A and C

Designs is plural. "Like that for" in B and "including that for" in D are wrong.

Only E eliminates all the problems.
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by rahulsaroha » Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:01 pm
"e" is correct...
design is plural....will should be used at the end of sentence..
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by mehravikas » Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:11 pm
IMO - A
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by sriven » Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:30 am
IMO: D is the right answer.
"Recognition" is singular hence "that" should be used instead of "those"
and "will" has to be included
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by deb1234 » Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:57 am
Answer E.
Future generations will reuire will.
Sets is plural> So will require those instead of that.
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Re: National Recognition

by rahulg83 » Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:43 am
pratikgandhi wrote:Although William Pereira first gained national recognition for his movie set designs, including those for the 1942 film “Reap the Wild Wind,” future generationsremember him as the architect of the Transamerica Tower, the Malibu campus of Pepperdine University, and the city of Irvine.
(A) including those for the 1942 film “Reap the Wild Wind,” future generations
(B) like that for the 1942 film “Reap the Wild Wind,” future generations will
(C) like those for the 1942 film “Reap the Wild Wind,” future generations
(D)including that for the 1942 film “Reap the Wild Wind,” future generations
will
(E) including those for the 1942 film “Reap the Wild Wind,” future generations
will
Do we really require 'will' here after generations? I don't think so, because we are not talking about to be future generations that 'will' remember him as an architect...these are the generations which come into picture after his works...so between A and E, i'd have chosen A. Opinions please?
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by umaa » Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:05 am
IMO A.

hough William Pereira first gained - Past Tense

So, It refers current generations as future generations.
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by vaishalijain7 » Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:00 pm
IMO 'D'. Agree with sriven. "Recognition" is singular hence "that" should be used instead of "those" which is used only in 'B' and 'D'. I think use of 'like' is incorrect after comma hence 'D'.
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by rahulg83 » Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:05 pm
vaishalijain7 wrote:IMO 'D'. Agree with sriven. "Recognition" is singular hence "that" should be used instead of "those" which is used only in 'B' and 'D'. I think use of 'like' is incorrect after comma hence 'D'.
I think 'those' in the original sentence refers to 'movie set designs' and not 'recognition'...
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by umaa » Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:35 pm
rahulg83, you're right. THOSE refers to Movie set designs
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by ska7945 » Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:18 am
i think "will" is required. E.
it just flows better with will.
i believe we wont see this kind of q in the actual test though.
but plz post OA,
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by perfectstranger » Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:33 am
Guys if you wrote a question, you ought to provide OA . Since all the Gmatters here are struggling to find right answer. So what's the OA?

IMO:E

(E) including those for the 1942 film “Reap the Wild Wind,” future generations will

I thought ''Those'' is used for set designs and ''future generations '' requires will. However I am not sure with ''those'' ? What does ''those'' refer? Please explain a clarifying explanation.

Although William Pereira first gained national recognition for his movie set designs, including those for the 1942 film “Reap the Wild Wind,” future generationsremember him as the architect of the Transamerica Tower, the Malibu campus of Pepperdine University, and the city of Irvine.
(A) including those for the 1942 film “Reap the Wild Wind,” future generations
(B) like that for the 1942 film “Reap the Wild Wind,” future generations will
(C) like those for the 1942 film “Reap the Wild Wind,” future generations
(D)including that for the 1942 film “Reap the Wild Wind,” future generations
will
(E) including those for the 1942 film “Reap the Wild Wind,” future generations
will
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by Stacey Koprince » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:55 am
yes, "those" refers to "set designs" - both logically and structurally (noun, including that/those for something specific...) - you'd expect that/those to refer to the noun before including.

So, here's something weird. I recognize this question; it's from my company. But the question as typed above does not match our question in the database. I'm guessing that it has "mutated" as people have posted it in random places around the web. Be very careful about where you get the material you study. If something has been passed around enough, inadvertent changes are made and that can sometimes mess up the problem.

In this case, there are changes, but the right answer is still in there (though it's a different letter / position). Though there is still a problem... read on.

We've got a split at the beginning: including vs. like. "Including" indicates something that actually belongs to whatever category is being discussed. "Like" indicates something that is only similar to whatever is being discussed. Which is it here? We're not just talking about designs "similar to" the 1942 film. We're actually talking about those designs. So eliminate B and C.

We've also got a singular / plural pronoun split: those vs. that. The antecedent (set designS) is plural, so eliminate B and D, which use the singular "that."

Here's where I'm not thrilled with whoever swapped things around here. At some point, someone swapped answers A and E. A and E are almost identical, except that A uses present tense and E uses future. In the original question (as we wrote it), the "will" future tense was given in the original sentence (and choice A). We can easily argue that the phrase "future generations" indicates that we should use future tense. But you could have an unusual construction that uses present tense here - and if that present tense is shown in choice A, the original sentence, then we should accept the intention of the author. The real test wouldn't make us make this kind of choice - which is why this question, as officially written, placed the "will" in the original sentence (and, therefore, answer choice A).

Bottom line: try to study right from the source. When you pick stuff up off of the web, even seemingly minor changes can make a difference in the validity of the material and what you are learning when you study it. Whoever swapped the two choices either didn't notice or thought for some reason that it wouldn't matter to make such a minor change. But it actually does matter, to some extent, in this case.
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