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by komal » Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:30 am
Joan of Arc, a young Frenchwoman who claimed to be divinely inspired, turned the tide of English victories in her country by liberating the city of Orleans and she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne.

(A) she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne

(B) persuaded Charles VII of France in claiming his throne

(C) persuading thatthe throne be claimed by Charles VII of France

(D) persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne

(E) persuading that Charles VII of France should claim the throne

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by Osirus@VeritasPrep » Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:47 am
I would choose D

A- this is incorrect because the sentence would need a comma before the "and" since this answer choice would make the second clause a complete thought

B- the gerund "in claiming' is incorrect here

C- passive voice

D- Correct

E- "persuading that" is awkward.
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by mohit11 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:01 am
Tricky one, from OG10, i got it wrong on the first attempt. I am weak at SC, verbal for that matter, so the reasoning may not be as precise as it should be.


Joan of Arc, a young Frenchwoman who claimed to be divinely inspired, turned the tide of English victories in her country by liberating the city of Orleans and she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne.

(A) she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne - She turned the tide by X and Y, not by X and she...

(B) persuaded Charles VII of France in claiming his throne - Persuaded X in .. does not sound right, should be Persuaded X to..

(C) persuading that the throne be claimed by Charles VII of France - looks like a passive construction

(D) persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne - sounds right, lets check E

(E) persuading that Charles VII of France should claim the throne - This was my original choice, idiom is Persuade someone of something, or someone to do something, here, that does not seem to fit
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by money9111 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:20 am
had it between B & D and ultimately chose D... because of the whole persuaded - in... nonsense
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by mgmt_gmat » Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:59 am
Joan of Arc ... turned ... and pursuaded...

Hence D.

Pursuaded to is correct not prsuaded in.
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by vineetbatra » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:54 pm
Why are we checking parallelism between Turned and Persuaded. Why can't the parallelism be between liberating and persuading?
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by jeffedwards » Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:34 pm
vineetbatra wrote:Why are we checking parallelism between Turned and Persuaded. Why can't the parallelism be between liberating and persuading?
vineetbatra:

Good question -

Joan of Arc...turned (the tide) and persuaded (Charles). Liberating is a modifier. How did she turn the tide...by liberating.

I see how you could say that she turned the tide by both liberating and by persuading, but there are other errors in those sentences.

c- you do not persuade that a throne be claimed...who are you persuading
e- persuade Charles should...is wrong. You could say persuade Charles to....

Does that help?
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by cunazza » Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:08 pm
komal wrote:Joan of Arc, a young Frenchwoman who claimed to be divinely inspired, turned the tide of English victories in her country by liberating the city of Orleans and she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne.

(A) she persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne

(B) persuaded Charles VII of France in claiming his throne

(C) persuading thatthe throne be claimed by Charles VII of France

(D) persuaded Charles VII of France to claim his throne

(E) persuading that Charles VII of France should claim the throne

OA D
It is D. You have to adjust the final sentence to the same tense as ''[Joan of Arc] turned the tide of English victories..."
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by vineetbatra » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:46 am
jeffedwards wrote:
Joan of Arc...turned (the tide) and persuaded (Charles). Liberating is a modifier. How did she turn the tide...by liberating.

c- you do not persuade that a throne be claimed...who are you persuading
e- persuade Charles should...is wrong. You could say persuade Charles to....

Does that help?
Jeff, Thanks it helps, I agree that the choices that use persuading have other problems, and that is where I am loosing it. When I was looking at the sentence I was just trying to draw parallelism between Liberating and Persuading, I did not realise that even turned could be a parallelism marker. How do you identify what is the parallelism marker.

I hope I am able to explain my question.

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by tomada » Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:37 pm
Like Vineetbatra, I originally thought the parallelism was between liberating and persuading.
With the help of Jeff's posting, I think I finally understand why this is incorrect.

As Jeff pointed out, liberating refers to how Joan of Arc turned the tide of English victories in her country.
If the parallelism included persuading, we'd be saying that Joan of Arc turned the tide of English victories in her country by doing the following:

(1) liberating the city of Orleans, and
(2) persuading Charles VII of France to take the throne
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