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by bpolley00 » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:40 am
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My friend actually had bought the old exams gmat sells and I just went through them and thought they were relatively EASY compared to GMATPREP/ manhattan prep tests. What is the consensus on these? I mean, I just missed 3 questions on the entire exam and that does not seem like an accurate reflection on my abilities as according to GMAT prep. I scored a 660 last time I took the prep; although, I guess that was three weeks ago. Does anyone have any thoughts on these as I know they are older so perhaps the questions are generally easier?

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by Jim@StratusPrep » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:48 am
I agree with you, they are easier. Many of these questions are repeated in other materials as well.
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by bpolley00 » Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:35 pm
Jim,

I mean, by comparison, how severe would you say the difference is in difficulty level. I cannot fathom getting an 800 on the real test; however, it appears if I would have been born at a previous date in time I would have. I thought that test was easier by maybe a 100 point difference in score, AT LEAST. What are your thoughts on the marginal differences?

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by bpolley00 » Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:04 pm
Also, wouldn't this cast some doubt on the legitimacy of the test in evaluating different candidates across generations? As one could make the argument that it is certainly not equitable. I mean, it would be the equivalent of some guy scoring a perfect score and then as soon as he did he would be like alright well let's make this impossible for the kids trying to get in, I mean the economy does suck right now! So I'm all like oooooooo I DID IT WHY CAN'T YOU!!?!?

Not trying to whine, but I find it awfully precarious. I mean I will play the game, as I love a challenge, but the more I learn about this test makes me take it about as serious as I take The Federal Reserve Chairman's speeches.

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by brianlange77 » Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:18 pm
bpolley00 wrote:Also, wouldn't this cast some doubt on the legitimacy of the test in evaluating different candidates across generations? As one could make the argument that it is certainly not equitable. I mean, it would be the equivalent of some guy scoring a perfect score and then as soon as he did he would be like alright well let's make this impossible for the kids trying to get in, I mean the economy does suck right now! So I'm all like oooooooo I DID IT WHY CAN'T YOU!!?!?

Not trying to whine, but I find it awfully precarious. I mean I will play the game, as I love a challenge, but the more I learn about this test makes me take it about as serious as I take The Federal Reserve Chairman's speeches.

Thoughts?
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Here's what I'd say b... you and I both know that QE has not had near the effect that policy makers had hoped, and yet, there's no going back now. Once you turn the printing press on, each new dollar makes it that much harder to turn it off. Same thing with this line of question -- you can probably make valid arguments, but, unless you discover a DeLorean, there's not much that can be done about it.

Just hitting the reality of the situation.

PS, Did you know that the price of bacon has gone up by 311% (more than gasoline!!) since 1980? Why aren't we talking about bacon hyperinflation??!?!!? Can you imagine how much bacon must cost in Zimbabwe? (https://www.cnn.com/2013/01/26/politics/ ... ?hpt=hp_c2)
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by bpolley00 » Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:33 pm
Well, as it turns out, I think the people in Zimbabwe have more to worry about than the price of Bacon, hahaha. Sorry I couldn't help myself.

In regards to Monetary Policy: Don't be fooled about the affect's of QE. They know what they are doing, they are just driving down the interest the government has to pay on it's debt by artificially creating demand for a financial product, that, anyone with half a brain wouldn't buy. I mean why don't you just go purchase a CD and get .007% on your money. Let me know how it works out for you.:) The real question is what is their next move? As they can't let interest rates go up. Historically my guess is, since we can't employ this many people, we are just going to go to war. Plus historically, for America, it has been awhile. I mean survival of the fittest, right Harvard, right Larry Summers, right Jeff Skilling, Right Eugene Plotkin? Can I tag Harvard in that? Or is it too brutal? haha. I am only kidding though, I mean if you have an institution that is that prestigious and that graduates that many people you are bound to have a few bad apples. I only included Larry Summers because of his comments on Toxic Waste and Africa, otherwise he is brilliant.

Back to the GMAT, yeah you are probably right; however, I have been looking for ways to "distinguish" myself from my classmates since sophomore year of college. Once I saw how much they were skewing GPA's and grades I quit caring. I mean there are athletes who can't even speak a complete thought let alone take a test who have 4.0's. Incredible! Anyways, I am certainly not going to apologize about my general thoughts on GPA. Instead, I started working on actually investing and proving that I was good. I mean any idiot can get a degree in Finance, yet most people including professors can't prove that they are good at what they are trying to do. I just tend to believe that there should be a completely accountable way for you to prove you deserve to study at the best schools. The more I find out about the GMAT, the more I tend to doubt it as an accurate, nonpartisan, way to evaluate people across different age/ethnic/ other groups. Perhaps GMAT will have a thorough response for me though; although, judging on the way they spoke to Ron on the last question he asked, I doubt it.

On a more positive note, I believe I am getting better.I mean according to 1998 I am an 800 :). We will see how that flies in 2013, as I have it scheduled for the 24th of February.

P.S. they should change the rate of inflation graph to since 1960 to present, for some odd reason, I bet it would look a whole lot different. Also, in regards to inflation, perhaps you are right on bacon increasing more than gasoline; however, I wouldn't take that position financially in judging the future. There is a reason why Mr. Buffett likes Phillips 66.

Always a good Chat Brian.

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by Jim@StratusPrep » Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:43 am
Just a thought as I had a similar notion in college. After a 3.9 my first semester, I thought school was a joke so I slacked. Fact of the matter is that even if it was, it is a bit immature to have that approach. Why not use the opportunity to learn what I could, knowing that grades will reflect my hard work and knowledge. After school there was not much I could do, but the GMAT was a way to prove intelligence. Just remember that this is a very important tool with a lot of statistics to back up the relevance. Playing cynical and skeptical is not going to get you anywhere.

You are competing against current applicants not those from 30 years ago - the standards should be higher or we are going backwards. The rules are laid out, just play the game. Seems like you are smart so show that you have learned to apply yourself after college.

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by bpolley00 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:59 am
Thanks for the Candid advice Jim, it is always appreciated and I couldn't agree more. That is one major reason I decided to take it.
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