RBBmba@2014 wrote:Marty Murray wrote:What you are saying is not really right, for two reasons.
One reason is that the answers to any well constructed CR question will not contradict facts stated in the prompt. So seeking to eliminate an answer choice by using what seems to be a contradiction between that answer choice and a prompt is not a productive way to train for the GMAT.
Marty - well, I get your point in
RED, but I've witnessed a number of instances in which the INCORRECT choice of an Official CR contradicts (or AT LEAST weakens) a PREMISE given in the argument. Now,as we know that the PREMISE given in the argument, can't be WEAKENED or CONTRADICTED, so isn't it logical to accept that answer choice as an INCORRECT option under such circumstances ?
While what is stated in some answer choices may SEEM to contradict the facts upon which an argument is based, I don't believe that I have ever seen in an official question an answer choice something that TRULY contradicts something stated as fact in an argument. If you have examples of such contradictions, please feel free to provide them as discussion points. I would really like to see them.
RBBmba@2014 wrote:Marty Murray wrote:The second reason is that what choice B says does not in fact contradict what the prompt says. Saying that harvests of "crops other than soyabeans" were above average does not clearly imply that soyabean production was not above average. In other words, while yes, the expression "crops other than soyabeans" could be seen as having the connotation that soyabeans were not among the crops the harvests of which were above average, really the presence of the expression "other than soyabeans" does not clearly or unambiguously indicate that the soyabean crop was not above average.
Consider the following.
"Last year the soyabean harvest was above average, and the harvests of food crops other than soyabeans were above average."
Clearly the meaning of second clause of the sentence does not contradict that of the first clause.
I don't get this.
Let's say, X happened for a number of scenarios
OTHER THAN B -- so, the phrase
OTHER THAN clearly indicates that X didn't happen in case of scenario B. How this interpretation could be wrong ?
Could you please help ?
"Other than" can be used in a variety of ways. The CONTEXT determines whether the object of "other than" is excluded from consideration.
"Other than" can be used in ways similar to those in which "apart from" or "besides" is used.
Really, "other than" simply indicates that things that are, of all things, OTHER things.
Are there any crops that are not soyabeans?
Are there any crops other than soyabeans?
Soyabeans are crops. Things other than soyabeans are also crops.
"Other than" can be used in sentences describing contrasts, but not every sentence using "other than" describes a contrast.
In these examples, a contrast is made between the harvest of soyabeans and the harvests of other crops.
While the soyabean harvest was not above average, the harvests of other crops were above average.
While the soyabean harvest was not above average, the harvests of crops other than soyabeans were above average.
In these examples "other" and "other than" are used, but no contrast is made.
The soyabean harvest was above average. The harvests of other crops were also above average.
The soyabean harvest was above average, and the harvest of crops other than soyabeans were also above average.
Possibly you are conflating "other than" with "except for". "Except for" is always used to convey exclusion or contrast.