740 - never scored that high in prep!! (non-native)

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Hi Guys,

first things first: thanks for this awesome forum. I really appreciate the cooperative spirit of all of you. You helped me a lot during my prep even though i have to admit that i didn't really participate actively in this forum. But I felt I hadn't anything valuable to contribute prior to taking the actual exam.

A couple of days ago I scored a pretty unexpected balanced 740 (50/40) :) I am non-native and it was my 1st attempt. The least I can do is to speak some words of encouragement to those who are currently struggling with the exam and maybe to give some advice to who wants it.

Here my thoughts:

1) Don't ever let bad prep results discourage you!! I never(!) scored as high in prep as I did on the actual exam. In my opinion MGMAT prep exams are slightly harder than the real GMAT - especially in Quant (just my perception). In my opinion, once you are fine with mgmat math, you are certainly fine with math on the real GMAT, too.
Verbal was more or less at the same level even though RC texts were considerably shorter for instance compared with MGMAT prep tests.

2) For non-natives: I do not speak english perfectly. I have a TOEFL which is fine but certainly not at a high fligher level. The point is: the gmat is all about RULES!! They are soooo important. Sure, if you want to score really high, you will need to have a certain feeling of how the language works because they give you some idioms you have never heard of. BUT: if you lack the basic rules, the GMAT won't even make you answer a hard question.
The probably most important book in my whole prep was MGMAT sentence correction! It is awesome. You can get so much out of it. Not only for the GMAT. And the rules in it are crucial in my opinion.
The CR bible on the other hand is the most ridiculous book I have ever read in my live. You could write the book on 50 pages. They invented clusters and classes for CR with arrows and information flows and that kind of things that just cost time you don't have. I really don't understand the hype. There are 2 or 3 useful thoughts in the whole book like: Look for the conclusion since most questions are aimed at the conclusion. But that's all. Pls don't waste time identifying the cluster, identifying the direction of information flow and blabla. Just read the question, read the text, find the conclusion and pick the right answer. Do the OG verbal! You will figure out very soon, what kind of answer to look for when asked a certain question.

3) Do timing!!

4) Prep regularly!

5) Schedule an exam and stick to it.

6) One thing for those of you who aim really high: the Math in the OG is low level. In the OG13 there are very few really hard questions. The problem: If you answer the first questions correct you will be asked hard questions throughout the whole rest of the exam (and it is the only way to get a good Quant score). Therefore, if you have prepped math only with the OG13, you will probably have more hard questions in the exam than in all the weeks or months of preparation together.
So: Firstly, do the MGMAT prep exams and review every single question. Secondly, scan the whole internet for hard questions (700-800) Thirdly, do not waste your time with OG math. Its a good start, but you have to move on!! (as I said: only for who wants to have a high score (above 650/700)

7) Most important: Be calm on test day! Sounds easy, I know. But try to think about it: You have done everything you can. Consider that being too nervous really costs you concentration you need for the tasks. Don't panic! Focus on the exam! You don't have anything to lose. It is not an oral. You know more or less what you will be asked and you have covered all areas. So stay calm!!
It really worked for me. Otherwise I would not have been able to achieve a better score than in all my previous prep exams, believe me!
The GMAT is not only about Math and Verbal, guys. In a more subtle way you are also tested on how you work under difficult circumstances. Keep that in mind and make it your advantage! If you enter the exam room all trembling, its going to be a hard time. And you will lose so much time.

Happy to answer particular questions if requested.
Wish you all the best!!
Booyakaaaahh!!! ;)
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by reylo11 » Thu May 22, 2014 1:42 pm
Hey...
That´s a great score for a non-native test taker. Congratulations!
Can you please share you MGMAT CAT scores...? How many did you take?
Besides, what was your aproach on RC ? I found this part of the test very diffcult..

Thank you and...congrats!
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by RocketScientist » Mon May 26, 2014 10:51 pm
Hi Reylo,

I did all six MGMAT prep test and the two free GMAC tests.
Below my scores (in chronological order):

1st free GMAC: 650 (if I remember right untimed)
1st MGMAT: 640 (untimed)
2nd MGMAT: 650
3rd MGMAT: 650
4th MGMAT: 640 (that is when I was completely sure that my final result was going to be around 640/650)
5th MGMAT: 720
6th MGMAT: 660
2nd free GMAC: 700

exam: 740

As I told you: apart from the 5th MGMAT (which I had considered a runaway value due to lucky guessing) the rest was not even close to the final score.

Concerning RC: I did not pay too much attention to RC because in my opinion it is something you cannot really improve in the short term. The way of reasoning is very similar to CR. As a matter of fact, lots of RC questions would work as CR questions as well. So do CR really carefully and you'll already cover a considerable part of RC. The rest is about reading fast (which I do not) and concentrating/focusing (I do).
Just one advice that worked for me: Read the whole passage first. Do not try to answer single questions by trying to extract relevant information from single paragraphs. Admittedly, it takes you time to read the whole text but you will be able to answer the questions much faster.

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by dtse86 » Tue May 27, 2014 7:41 am
Congrats RocketScientist!

My GMAT story was very similar to yours. I agree that the best take away was to not let bad CAT scores discourage you!

What do you plan to do next?

Reylo,

I would also add that at a certain difficulty level the RC's can get a bit technical to read. What I did was focused on the bigger picture of the section and the purpose of each paragraph and then revisit sections when I came to a question that asked about something within that section specifically. Otherwise you can spend an enormous amount of time just trying to figure out the extremely technical and verbose jargon for no reason.

I think another thing that helped me that after a ton of practice problems you begin to notice some of the GMAT traps. I think this was vital for me because I knew when the question was setting me up for a trap and I could eliminate a few answers immediately. Narrowing down your choices are key especially when you are strapped for time and the questions get really difficult.

Good Luck!

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by cchaitanya » Tue May 27, 2014 10:47 pm
Thanks for such an inspiring post. I have scheduled my exam in next 2 weeks and this post helped me figure few things to clear my mind.

One question that I have is while answering verbal questions, I get more focused and concentrated on first 25 questions and then lose time to answer for last 5-6 questions. May I know how was your pacing strategy during the exam? :)

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by federico.martino85 » Wed May 28, 2014 5:38 am
Thank you very much for your short but very helpful post!!

When you talk about 700-800 quant questions, where did you find them? Is there a specific web site you would recommend?

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by bagcanbabayigit » Thu May 29, 2014 3:42 am
Congrats RocketScientist!

Amazing score for a non-native speaker. As a non-native speaker, what will be your advice in verbal section to us?

And in addition to that, can u please share your TOEFL score in order to give an idea to us for determining our limits?

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by scratch » Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:00 am
Congratulations dude!

May I ask, how many days did you take to prepare for the exam? I had started preparing an year ago and due to work and travel time I had discontinued my prep.

I am trying to restart and don't know where to start from as there is so much material and GMAT information floating around!

I have scheduled my exam at the end of August and really need to give it this time.

Any help/suggestions will be very much appreciated.

Thanks!

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by RocketScientist » Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:30 pm
dtse86 wrote:
I think another thing that helped me that after a ton of practice problems you begin to notice some of the GMAT traps. I think this was vital for me because I knew when the question was setting me up for a trap and I could eliminate a few answers immediately. Narrowing down your choices are key especially when you are strapped for time and the questions get really difficult.

Good Luck!
Good point!!! The more you practice the more you will get a feeling for those traps. I can confirm that.

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by RocketScientist » Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:48 pm
cchaitanya wrote: One question that I have is while answering verbal questions, I get more focused and concentrated on first 25 questions and then lose time to answer for last 5-6 questions. May I know how was your pacing strategy during the exam? :)
Hi,

to be honest: I had exactly the same problem. At the beginning of my preparation I was very slow and did not ever finish anything on time. Really annoying!!! It took me too much time to read texts, answers, figure out the right choice etc.
But I got faster. I timed all the verbal problems in the OG and by the time I sat for the exam I felt that I could do it without having to guess in the end. I had finished the last two MGMAT exams on time and it really worked during the exam, too.

I am pretty sure you will observe the same acceleration during your preparation. For the exam itself I had no timing strategy apart from a couple of milestones, such as 37 min = 20 questions left. Don´t check the time too often! Anyway you will have a feeling whether you are still in time and it costs too much time to do time checks after every problem.

And regarding the overall pace: I had exactly the same pace for the entire exam. I did not sacrifice more time for the first questions than for the last. I do not know for sure, but I guess it is a legend, that you have to be absolutely correct on the first - say - five questions.

Good luck!!

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by RocketScientist » Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:59 pm
federico.martino85 wrote:Thank you very much for your short but very helpful post!!

When you talk about 700-800 quant questions, where did you find them? Is there a specific web site you would recommend?
Hi Federico,

I admit, that´s kind of annoying sometimes since there is not lots of free stuff on the internet. But do some google research on 700+ or 800 or hard quant questions and you will easily find a couple of websites and forums. Be careful with the solutions in the forums. They are not always correct. But nevertheless, having the problems is already of great help.

In bocca al lupo! ;)

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by RocketScientist » Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:05 pm
bagcanbabayigit wrote:Congrats RocketScientist!

Amazing score for a non-native speaker. As a non-native speaker, what will be your advice in verbal section to us?

And in addition to that, can u please share your TOEFL score in order to give an idea to us for determining our limits?

Actually, the most important advice I felt I could share with you is posted above. However, I am happy to help if you have some particular questions to be clarified. But I am afraid there is no such thing as the "general advice" for the verbal part.

TOEFL 102

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by dtse86 » Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:42 am
federico.martino85 wrote:Thank you very much for your short but very helpful post!!

When you talk about 700-800 quant questions, where did you find them? Is there a specific web site you would recommend?
Hi Fredrico,

In addition, I used the MGMAT flashcards app, the Advanced Quant MGMAT book (really hard questions to do in under 2 min), and I purchased the PrepGame App. All these tools should help get more practice and more speed. I think it's key to make sure the simple arithmetic comes quickly and that you're asking the right questions from the get go. In the beginning I wasted a lot of time solving problems the long way when a lot of times, plugging the answers was simply the better strategy.