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is xy>0?

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Source: — Data Sufficiency |

by Brent@GMATPrepNow » Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:52 am
abhasjha wrote:Is xy > 0?

(1) x - y > -2
(2) x - 2y > -6
Target question: Is xy > 0?

Statement 1: x - y > -2
Let's multiply both sides of the inequality by -1 to get: y - x < 2
This tells us that y is less than 2 greater than x.
Does this provide enough information to answer the target question? No.
Consider these two possible cases x and y that satisfy the given inequality:
Case a: x = 1, y = 1, in which case xy > 0
Case b: x = -1, y = 0.5, in which case xy < 0
Since we cannot answer the target question with certainty, statement 1 is NOT SUFFICIENT

Statement 2: x - 2y > -6
Let's multiply both sides of the inequality by -1 to get: 2y - x < 6
This tells us that 2y is less than 6 greater than x.
Does this provide enough information to answer the target question? No.
Consider these two possible cases x and y that satisfy the given inequality:
Case a: x = 1, y = 1, in which case xy > 0
Case b: x = -1, y = 0.5, in which case xy < 0
Since we cannot answer the target question with certainty, statement 2 is NOT SUFFICIENT

Statements 1 and 2 combined
Statement 1 says that y is less than 2 greater than x
Statement 2 says that 2y is less than 6 greater than x
Since both conclusions are very similar, and since each statement alone was INSUFFICIENT, I suspect that the combined statements are not sufficient, so I'll start looking for some values that prove insufficiency.
Here are two sets of values:
Case a: x = 1, y = 1, in which case xy > 0
Case b: x = -1, y = 0.5, in which case xy < 0
Since we cannot answer the target question with certainty, the combined statements are NOT SUFFICIENT

Answer = E

Cheers,
Brent
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by Uva@90 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:13 am
Brent@GMATPrepNow wrote:
abhasjha wrote:Is xy > 0?

(1) x - y > -2
(2) x - 2y > -6
Target question: Is xy > 0?

Statement 1: x - y > -2
Let's multiply both sides of the inequality by -1 to get: y - x > 2
This tells us that y is more than 2 greater than x.
Does this provide enough information to answer the target question? No.
Consider these two possible cases x and y that satisfy the given inequality:
Case a: x = 1, y = 4, in which case xy > 0
Case b: x = -1, y = 5, in which case xy < 0
Since we cannot answer the target question with certainty, statement 1 is NOT SUFFICIENT

Statement 2: x - 2y > -6
Let's multiply both sides of the inequality by -1 to get: 2y - x > 6
This tells us that 2y is more than 6 greater than x.
Does this provide enough information to answer the target question? No.
Consider these two possible cases x and y that satisfy the given inequality:
Case a: x = 1, y = 4, in which case xy > 0
Case b: x = -1, y = 5, in which case xy < 0
Since we cannot answer the target question with certainty, statement 2 is NOT SUFFICIENT

Statements 1 and 2 combined
Statement 1 says that y is more than 2 greater than x
Statement 2 says that 2y is more than 6 greater than x
Since both conclusions are very similar, and since each statement alone was INSUFFICIENT, I suspect that the combined statements are not sufficient, so I'll start looking for some values that prove insufficiency.
Here are two sets of values:
Case a: x = 1, y = 4, in which case xy > 0
Case b: x = -1, y = 5, in which case xy < 0
Since we cannot answer the target question with certainty, the combined statements are NOT SUFFICIENT

Answer = E

Cheers,
Brent
Brent,
If we Multiply both side of the Inequality by same negative number we have to change direction of inequality na ?
Am I right ?
Let's multiply both sides of the inequality by -1 to get: y - x > 2
Regards,
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by GMATGuruNY » Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:22 am
abhasjha wrote:Is XY>0?

(1) X-Y > -2
(2) X-2y > -6
xy > 0 if x and y have the SAME SIGN.
Question rephrased: Do x and y have the same sign?

I find it helpful to put one variable IN TERMS OF THE OTHER.

Statement 1: x > y-2
Statement 2: x > 2y - 6

If y=1, then the statements imply the following:
Statement 1: x > -1
Statement 2: x > -4

Both statements are satisfied if y=1 and x=-1/2.
In this case, x and y have different signs.
Both statements are satisfied if y=1 and x=1.
In this case, x and y have the same sign.
Thus, the two statements combined are INSUFFICIENT.

The correct answer is E.
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by Brent@GMATPrepNow » Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:28 am
Uva@90 wrote:
Brent@GMATPrepNow wrote:
abhasjha wrote:Is xy > 0?

(1) x - y > -2
(2) x - 2y > -6
Target question: Is xy > 0?

Statement 1: x - y > -2
Let's multiply both sides of the inequality by -1 to get: y - x > 2
This tells us that y is more than 2 greater than x.
Does this provide enough information to answer the target question? No.
Consider these two possible cases x and y that satisfy the given inequality:
Case a: x = 1, y = 4, in which case xy > 0
Case b: x = -1, y = 5, in which case xy < 0
Since we cannot answer the target question with certainty, statement 1 is NOT SUFFICIENT

Statement 2: x - 2y > -6
Let's multiply both sides of the inequality by -1 to get: 2y - x > 6
This tells us that 2y is more than 6 greater than x.
Does this provide enough information to answer the target question? No.
Consider these two possible cases x and y that satisfy the given inequality:
Case a: x = 1, y = 4, in which case xy > 0
Case b: x = -1, y = 5, in which case xy < 0
Since we cannot answer the target question with certainty, statement 2 is NOT SUFFICIENT

Statements 1 and 2 combined
Statement 1 says that y is more than 2 greater than x
Statement 2 says that 2y is more than 6 greater than x
Since both conclusions are very similar, and since each statement alone was INSUFFICIENT, I suspect that the combined statements are not sufficient, so I'll start looking for some values that prove insufficiency.
Here are two sets of values:
Case a: x = 1, y = 4, in which case xy > 0
Case b: x = -1, y = 5, in which case xy < 0
Since we cannot answer the target question with certainty, the combined statements are NOT SUFFICIENT

Answer = E

Cheers,
Brent
Brent,
If we Multiply both side of the Inequality by same negative number we have to change direction of inequality na ?
Am I right ?
Let's multiply both sides of the inequality by -1 to get: y - x > 2
Regards,
Uva.
Ooops!
Thanks for catching that, Uva.
I edited my response accordingly.

Cheers,
Brent
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by TJerry » Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:48 am
Why we multiply both side of the Inequality by same negative number we have to change direction of inequality? :? Please help!

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by Brent@GMATPrepNow » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:17 am
TJerry wrote:Why we multiply both side of the Inequality by same negative number we have to change direction of inequality? :? Please help!

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Multiplying both sides by -1 wasn't entirely necessary. I just used that to get a better idea sense of the relationship between x and y.

With the given inequality, x - y > -2, it's hard to tell what's going on. For example, what does it mean if we say that x - y = -1? It means that y is 1 greater than x, but that might not be readily obvious to everyone.

If we multiply both sides by -1, we get y - x < 2
So, for example, if y - x = 1, I know that y is 1 greater than x
If y - x = 0.5, I know that y is 0.5 greater than x
If y - x = 0, I know that y is equal to x
In general, I can conclude that y is less than 2 greater than x.

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