Need advice on getting 700+

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Need advice on getting 700+

by srinivasram » Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:22 am
Hi,

I took the GMAT exam last december and scored 570 (Q - 42 and V - 27). I am an applicant to the Phd programs so I need a score of atleast 700 if I ever need to apply to one of the good programs. Could you please suggest what I need to do to achieve this?. I feel my verbal is very weak but then even the Quant section needs considerable improvement. So, I'd be happy if you guys can let me know the books to read, the strategy as well as any other good resources to crack 700. Thanks in advance.
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by VP_Jim » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:25 am
Improving to the 700+ level is pretty hard, so I'd suggest taking a prep course. Sometimes the difference between someone in the high 500s and someone in the low 700s that the 700s person learned the "GMAT way" to do problems, the tricks and strategies, etc. Yes, I am biased because I work for a prep company, but if you're really serious about going up 130 points a course will really help.

Also, the books I recommend are the Official Guides produced by the GMAC. There are three: orange, purple, and green. Between them you'll get over 1,500 old GMAT problems to practice on. One problem is that their explanations aren't the greatest, so it's important that you use these books in conjunction with your prep course or, if you aren't taking a prep course, some other prep book from one of the reputable test prep companies.

Good luck!
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by srinivasram » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:48 am
Hi Jim,

Thank You very much for the help. I appreciate your taking time and explaining in detail. However I must let you know that since I work full time right now, it leaves me little time to take a prep course. But I can certainly take any online courses if you feel they help. Also, I have the OG books (all colors you mentioned) and the complete Manhattan series, as well as the Princeton and Kaplan books for GMAT. Do you feel this would suffice for my preparation and if yes, then in what order do you feel I should start preparing. Again Thanks in advance for the help.

PS: I also have the Powerscore CR Bibles.

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by bilko » Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:32 am
I agree with Jim that a prep course would be the way to go, and I don't even work for a test prep company. ;-)

No, seriously, he's right. But if you can't do a classroom one, then yeah, an online one would be good. I am doing Princeton Review's online class, the regular one (live chat with instructors 24/7 but not the live lectures, because that didn't fit my schedule), and so far it has been extremely helpful.

I think you have more than enough books to work with, possibly too much. The OG books are a must, so definitely do those, but wait to dig into the others until you decide for sure on a course. You might not need them all.

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by VP_Jim » Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:58 am
A live prep class is definitely best, but an online class might work IF you are self motivated. That said, if you want to score a 700, the GMAT needs to be your first priority for the next few weeks. This might possiblity require you to make time sacrifices in other areas in order to take a class and/or study. Remember: if it were easy to score a 700, everyone would do it.

Also, yes, that's actually too many books. You will be tempted to just do hundreds of problems rather than truly analyzing and breaking down every problem you do. I think the OG books plus one prep guide is enough. When I studied, I used a prep guide and the orange Official Guide - that's it. The issue is not the quantity of problems you do, but the QUALITY of the studying that you put in.
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by srinivasram » Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:50 am
Thanks a million Jim for the help. I will keep in mind your advice and I will certainly go through the preparation in the way you mentioned

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verbal strategy

by aks5383 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:56 am
Hi

here are few techniques to improve your verbal. hope you would find them useful.

SC:
1. Though SC notes by spidey, sahil ,gayatri are great help but I would recommend to make your own notes. jot down the rule and most importantly examples down below. Memorize the rules with examples.Rules will not look scary in your own hand-writing. :)
2. if you find explanation for the rule ,do write it along side.you will never go incorrect then.
e.g. Several times I committed the mistake involving the rule of the number +v. but never since I have found out the explanation that ‘the number’ represent just one/certain number, so it has to be singular.
Or another facet of the rule to substantiate as due to +noun and it modifies noun and works as adjective.
Because of modifies verb.
3. for tackling sc,
a) The trick I found most rewarding is “I will find out intent of the sentence i.e what the sentence want to convey.(even I have to read twice). You will find out that this technique is extremely handy in most difficult questions.
b) Find out the errors by scanning VERTICALLY in all the options and cancel all the choices with those mistakes.
c) Remember that there are two or more than two mistakes in the SC. Do not ponder over same mistake for long time.
d) Almost all the choices could be grammatically correct but not when read in conjunction with the non underlined part.
e) If you have narrowed down to two choices takes few seconds more to read them back into the sentence.
f) Do not try to overcorrect.
4. Most importantly keep a log of your errors as you definitely do not want to commit them again.

RC:
I am under training to read the passage interactively and reactively, trying to get the intent and the purpose of the author.
Most importantly I should be able to support my choice from the passage, using one or two lines from the passage.

CR:
You can read the question or the stimulus, whichever suites you best please forget the advice of the expert it is you, who have to take the test. But just do one thing determine conclusion and premise of the argument.
If there is no indicative word then the part you think is the conclusion put “therefore” in front of it and if you find it convincing then rest is premise.
Please do not bother yourself to find out assumption, scope etc and overanalyze the argument.
Now attack the options apply process of elimination. If you are left with 2 or 3 choices a quick glance at stimulus will help you to zero on the correct answer.

For both RC & CR you are out to choose LEAST OBJECTIONABLE choice not THE BEST choice.
Even a single word could spoil your answer choice.
You know a bad player may become a good coach. Jokes apart.
I sincerely hope that this could be any help to you.
Comments are solicited even if you disagree.
I would also like to know your strategy and your approach to achieve your aim.
aks

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totally agree ..

by California4jx » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:47 am
these are excellent tips - my prep has evolved to almost similar techniques mentioned above -- thanks to aks for writing them up here for other's reinforcement.

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thannx cal4jx

by aks5383 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:01 am
hi ...
thanx for the compliment . 8)
keep us updated about ur progress.
aks