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by Rastis » Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:55 am
I desperately need help with quant. I've been studying for over a year and I CANNOT break 30 on the quant to save my life. I've been using Veritas Prep material but for whatever reason I cannot comprehend the math and remember how to do any of it. I can do all the basics but I cannot look at a word problem w/o freaking out. Please help. Desperate.
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by Jim@StratusPrep » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:12 pm
Honestly sounds like you need some instruction. I would look at some video tutorials or a tutor depending on your budget.
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by lunarpower » Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:18 am
i followed a link here from an older thread.

what strikes me most about this brief post is the apparent contradiction between the following two sentences:
Rastis wrote:I cannot comprehend the math and remember how to do any of it.
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I can do all the basics
i guess i'm misunderstanding what you're trying to say here, but, literally, "i can't remember how to do any of [the math]" and "i can do all the basics" are precisely opposite statements. so, you're going to have to explain more precisely what you mean here.

i think you're also overlooking the issue of organization. if word problems cause you to freak out more than other types of problems do, then your issue probably has little to do with your mathematical foundation; in all likelihood, the problem instead stems from lack of organization.
* when you see a word problem, do you read through the whole problem first, before writing any numbers or equations to make sure you actually UNDERSTAND the problem?
* once you've read through the problem and gotten your bearings as to what is happening in it, do you make charts/organizational devices BEFORE you start throwing numbers and variables around?
if your answer to either of these questions is "no", there's the source of your difficulty with word problems: you are trying to do stuff ... without any actual understanding of what you're doing.

incidentally, the same issue is also at the heart of data sufficiency, regardless of whether you're dealing with a "word problem".
* when you see a data sufficiency problem, do you understand EXACTLY what would be "sufficient" and/or "insufficient" BEFORE using either of the statements?
if your answer here is "no", that's the same issue as with word problems above -- you're trying to do stuff before you actually understand what you're doing.

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if you indeed "know all the basics", then you should essentially have the mathematical foundation you need for the exam; the vast majority of problems, regardless of difficulty level, are based on fundamentals. if that's the case, then your primary issues are very likely to be the ones i've outlined above.
those issues are quite common, because most people are accustomed to studying math in a "classroom" environment -- in which the problems are very routine and predictable, to such an extent that exam problems look identical to homework problems. under those circumstances, it's actually possible to memorize and execute solution methods without really understanding them, because the exam problems mimic the homework so closely. however, on the gmat -- a test whose problems will never be identical to practice material -- that kind of approach will crash and burn.
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by Rastis » Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:50 am
Just took a MGMAT CAT - 520 32Q, 30V. That score seems to be at the maximum of what I've been scoring on all practice tests.

I'm really unsure what is going on. I'm going to try to analyze the questions I got in correct and see if there was a trick to solve them. As for verbal, don't know what to do. I do fine on practice questions but that never shows in a CAT.

I'm running out of time

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by Brent@GMATPrepNow » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:49 am
Hey Rastis,

I believe that, in order to improve your math skills, you should compartmentalize your learning and take the time to master each topic (e.g., percents, ratios, exponents, statistics, etc.).

This means that, for each topic, you should:
1) Learn the underlying concepts (rules, attributes, notation, etc.)
2) Learn GMAT-specific strategies related to that topic
3) Practice dozens of questions all related to that one topic.
4) Don't stop working on that topic until you have mastered it
Then, and only then, move on to the next topic.

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by Rastis » Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:15 pm
Just took another practice test - 530, 34Q 29V. I have no idea what to do.

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by Brent@GMATPrepNow » Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:46 am
Rastis wrote:Just took another practice test - 530, 34Q 29V. I have no idea what to do.
Hey Rastis,

You began this thread by saying "I cannot break 30 on the quant to save my life"
You've now broken 30 in your last 2 practice test.
Surely this is a good sign, no?

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by lunarpower » Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:55 am
Brent@GMATPrepNow wrote:You began this thread by saying "I cannot break 30 on the quant to save my life"
You've now broken 30 in your last 2 practice test.
Surely this is a good sign, no?
my first thought too, but you beat me to it. the glass is half full, and all that.
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by Rastis » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:53 pm
Took another practice test. My score dropped to a 480, 25 Q 28 V. Out of answers.

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by lunarpower » Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:24 am
Rastis wrote:Took another practice test. My score dropped to a 480, 25 Q 28 V. Out of answers.
it may be a bit inapposite for me to bring this up right now, but -- here you've stated that you are "out of answers", but it doesn't appear that you have made an attempt to consider, or to respond to, the many potential issues and areas of improvement that i mentioned a few posts upthread.
perhaps you thought extensively about all those things and just didn't post anything... but, then again, perhaps you haven't thought about them much, or at all, and and instead have just kept on taking random practice tests.

have you considered the questions that i wrote in my post above? if so, have you made an attempt to analyze those aspects of your studying, and/or to correct anything in your current study habits that might be maladaptive?
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by Rastis » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:06 am
Took the official test saturday - 500, 35Q 25V.

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by Rastis » Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:58 am
Tried to take a practice test today after taking a couple months off and studying on my own. I quit within 8 questions of the verbal section. I almost quit in the math because i found myself just guessing on them and was left with 20 mins left in that section.

Coming up on three years i've been trying to beat the gmat and i still have never gotten above a 600 on any practice test. Maybe an mba isn't for me.

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