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660 first score

by MarkS » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:19 pm
I had no clue the GMAT would be such a challenge.

I started off a couple weeks ago with the GMAT powerprep software and did the 2 practice tests in there, reviewing the answers after I was done and restudying. First test was 530, second test was 590.

Then I was told that I should expect my test score to be lower on test day than on the practice exams, so I went out and bought a program by 800score. It was pretty good; it has 5 practice exams and costs $40.

I then got scores of 560, 570, 590, 600, 650 with the practice tests on 800score. After every test I would re-do the questions I got wrong until I got them right, and I would make sure I could do every question in under 2 minutes, so I re-did even the ones I got right, but took me too long. The 800score program comes with an explanation of how to do the questions you did not answer correctly, and sometimes a trick is used which results in a faster way of doing things than your solution. Almost all their answers were correct, I only submitted two corrections to them. (No response from them) Their support is not very good, but at $40 it's hard to complain. (I had asked for a good technique to keep myself on pace for the actual GMAT and they responded to use their built in pacing system. That's nice, but it isn't built into the actual GMAT) They do have a pretty good tutorial and preparation section that comes with their package, which I found genuinely helpful, and read the sections which applied most to the errors I was making.

The main challenge I had with the GMAT might seem a little odd to some. I have used a calculator my entire life and have until now sucked at mental or paper based arithmetic, so my main challenge involved doing lots and lots of simple math over and over until I could do it reasonably quickly. I think this sucked up the bulk of my study time. The second biggest challenge I had was pacing myself and realizing when it's advantageous to guess and move on to the next question. Usually I like to work on a question until I get it, no matter if it takes hours, and then move on. I'm built that way. But if you do this with the GMAT you fail. So I learned some time management skills and I think these will be handy to me in real life. In management you need to learn to identify and delegate out the more time consuming tasks, or put them aside for another time period. The third biggest challenge I had was in the verbal section, and trying to guess what the main point of the passage was, or what some isolated statement was supposed to mean given the entire context. I could still see a lot of improvement for myself in these areas.

The surprising thing is that I got a 68% in quant and an 83% in verbal, since I am a mathematics major, and have won math awards before. I had expected the opposite. The GMAT is really focused on speed of execution and memorization of problem solving algorithms and fitting them to the type of problem rather than figuring out the issue from scratch. It tests execution ability and I do think it is a good indicator for management potential.

Although I wished I had prepared better and had started much earlier, and wanted to defer the test -- both due to insufficient preparation and due to food poisoning on the day of the exam -- I couldn't as I would miss my scholarship deadline. Fortunately I managed to get a high enough score to meet the scholarship requirements for my chosen program though. :) However, I would like to take the GMAT over again at some point and embark upon a more involved study program. I guess I would like to do this to basically have bragging rights to a higher score, and also to open some doors for me at some point in time should anyone look at GMAT score as a prime indicator of performance. I'd like to list a very high GMAT score on my resume within a year or so of now, and most of all, I'd like to... well... beat the GMAT!

I joined beatthegmat after many other sites where I just got spammed by ads and had no meaningful interaction, so I like this site the best. On other sites I had advertised for a GMAT study partner, but never found one. However, if someone is interested in studying with me and can attain some pretty good scores already, I'd definitely be interested in a study partner going forward, although the stress is currently off for me as I have met my scholarship requirements.

Any future advice on improving my score would be appreciated. Where do I go from here?

Thanks!

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by VP_Tatiana » Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:30 am
Hi Mark,

660 is decent! Before you spend more time preparing for the test, I think you should decide where you want to go. That score will get you into many excellent programs, though probably not a top 20 school. As far as wanting to put your GMAT score on your resume, I have never seen that done. I was a Microsoft recruiter for several years. I think it has a higher chance to hurt you than help you, unless you are applying to work at a GMAT prep company. ; ) If you're not in business school, the employer will wonder why you spent so much time preparing. They may also worry that you will leave their company to go to school. If you are in school, then your school name is enough to convey prestige.

As far as your flipped math and verbal scores, I actually scored higher on verbal than math as well, though I was a math major and a math SAT tutor for several years in college. I think what happened was that I spent more time and energy studying verbal, and left some "low hanging fruit" in the math section. I think just a little more math studying would have improved my math score. But hey, I still got 99th percentile. ; )

If you want to get better at mental math, and the tips presented in your study books are not enough, try Scott Flansberg's The Human Calculator. Granted, he'll teach you things beyond the scope of the GMAT, like how to multiply 6 digit numbers in your head. But if personal satisfaction is your main goal (as its possible based on your post) you may enjoy this material.

As far as pacing goes, it was also something I had to work on since I took the SAT in paper form and was used to being able to skip hard questions and go back to them. You see you can't do that in the GMAT! You do have to know when to cut your losses and guess. At the very least, try to eliminate crazy choices so that it is an educated guess. As much as we math majors hate it, you will find that you can save time through tricks like backsolving, plugging in nice round numbers (like 100 in a percentage problem) and only doing the minimum required to get the answer. Many problems do not require a full solution, though it feels awkward not to go all the way through, and not to solve the elegant, algebraic way. The score does not take into account how you got to a right answer, just that you got it.

Hope that helped,

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by daniyatom » Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:43 am
Tatiana - I read some of your posts, and I am curious about the relationship between GMAT scores and admissions to a top 20 school. You had mentioned that a 660 score might not be good enough to get into a top 20 school - if so, what is the minimum score that one must obtain in order to be considered competitive at top 20 schools?

Also, there are a lot of part time programs at top 20 schools (i.e. Ross, UCLA, Maryland (which is a borderline top 20 school in some rankings and a top 30 schools in some other rankings), UNC, Emory and even Berkeley and NYU) where the average GMAT score (of admitted students) is around 660-690. I would venture to think that a 660 school should be competitive at such part time programs, wouldn't you agree? Besides, the GMAT is one factor, albeit an important one, among many other factors that business schools consider before granting someone admissions.