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a 700 plus level question...

by [email protected] » Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:41 am
Charlotte Perkins Gilman, a late nineteenth-century feminist, called for urban apartment houses including child-care facilities and clustered suburban houses including communal eating and social facilities.

[A] including child-care facilities and clustered suburban houses including communal eating and social facilities

that included child-care facilities, and for clustered suburban houses to include communal eating and social facilities

[C] with child-care facilities included and for clustered suburban houses to include communal eating and social facilities

[D] that included child-care facilities and for clustered suburban houses with communal eating and social facilities

[E] to include child-care facilities and for clustered suburban houses with communal eating and social facilities included


Try this one as I would give the OA later... Lets see how many people get this correct Parallelism case....

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by theachiever » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:09 am
I would go with Option B.
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by The Iceman » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:45 am
[email protected] wrote:Charlotte Perkins Gilman, a late nineteenth-century feminist, called for urban apartment houses including child-care facilities and clustered suburban houses including communal eating and social facilities.

[A] including child-care facilities and clustered suburban houses including communal eating and social facilities

that included child-care facilities, and for clustered suburban houses to include communal eating and social facilities

[C] with child-care facilities included and for clustered suburban houses to include communal eating and social facilities

[D] that included child-care facilities and for clustered suburban houses with communal eating and social facilities

[E] to include child-care facilities and for clustered suburban houses with communal eating and social facilities included


Try this one as I would give the OA later... Lets see how many people get this correct Parallelism case....

Guyzzz please try...


This is not a representative GMAT question; however, if at all, you happen to be bogged down by such questions on actual exam, you can approach those by adopting following approach.
This question warrants the parallelism while mentioning the items of a list. If you look at this sentence, it has two separate sub-lists.
First part mentions the element of "urban apartment houses" and second part deals with "clustered suburban houses". The list identifier for the first part is "for" as in "called for". The second part of the list must have "for" (preceded by and) in order to maintain the coherence of the list.
The best answer "D" uses "with" in the capacity of "that included" in the second part of the sentence.
Each of the other options has issue with the parallelism. B and C use "houses to include communal eating", which when read with the rest of the sentence makes little sense.
P.S." D" is just a one-eyed answer choice among the blind ones as it has the verb-tense problem. "that included" in option D could be better replaced with "that would include".

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by bubbliiiiiiii » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:50 am
I would opt for A.

I read the option A as follows,

[A] including child-care facilities and {for} clustered suburban houses including communal eating and social facilities

Others I see some issue with parallelism

that included child-care facilities, and for clustered suburban houses to include communal eating and social facilities

[C] with child-care facilities included and for clustered suburban houses to include communal eating and social facilities

[D] that included child-care facilities and for clustered suburban houses with communal eating and social facilities

[E] to include child-care facilities and for clustered suburban houses with communal eating and social facilities included
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by gauraku » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:16 pm
A it is..

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by challenger63 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:57 pm
[email protected] wrote:Charlotte Perkins Gilman, a late nineteenth-century feminist, called for urban apartment houses including child-care facilities and clustered suburban houses including communal eating and social facilities.
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[email protected] wrote: [A] including child-care facilities and clustered suburban houses including communal eating and social facilities
>> We can't omit "for" before "clustered", because it is unclear to what clustered "suburban houses" refers to.
[email protected] wrote: that included child-care facilities, and for clustered suburban houses to include communal eating and social facilities


>> "comma" before "and" is wrong because we only have two items in sequence, and the clause after "and" doesn't have S+V

"to include" is unidiomatic. "To" states a purpose, here we talk about additional features of houses.

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[C] with child-care facilities included and for clustered suburban houses to include communal eating and social facilities


>> There is a pattern "preposition + noun + participle", which is considered wrong in GMAT.
Apart from the pattern, "to include" is wrong and not parallel.

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[D] that included child-care facilities and for clustered suburban houses with communal eating and social facilities


Fine.
"for ..noun that ... and for ...noun with" is grammatically correct structure.

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[E] to include child-care facilities and for clustered suburban houses with communal eating and social facilities included


>> preposition + noun + participle pattern.
"to include" is again incorrect.
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by bpolley00 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:50 pm
I got D and I would be willing to bet a good amount of money that says I am correct :). I am not good with technically explaining my answer, but just my mental process. I am sure an expert will explain the technical correct reasoning but Here is my explanation/ mental process-

Charlotte Perkins Gilman, a late nineteenth-century feminist, called for urban apartment houses including child-care facilities and clustered suburban houses including communal eating and social facilities.

[A] including child-care facilities and clustered suburban houses including communal eating and social facilities
First of all just read this and it sounds Very odd. I believe that including communal eating and social facilities as it is incorporated in this sentence makes it kind of ambiguious whether or not the writer intended to describe both child-care facilities and clustered suburban houses or merely suburban houses. So this would be an ambiguous gerund phrase that makes the sentence very odd to me because of the double including.

that included child-care facilities, and for clustered suburban houses to include communal eating and social facilities
To include is incorrect. It would be that include. Also, this is an incorrect use of a prepositional phrase
[C] with child-care facilities included and for clustered suburban houses to include communal eating and social facilities

This is just completely wrong. If anyone needs an explanation on this I will re-post :)
[D] that included child-care facilities and for clustered suburban houses with communal eating and social facilities
That included and child care and for clustered suburban houses parallel structure is correct. with communal eating and social facilities correctly describes the suburban homes.

[E] to include child-care facilities and for clustered suburban houses with communal eating and social facilities included

This isn't parallel and the last part is a mess.

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Final Answer: D

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by shenoydevika » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:42 am
The correct option here IS D!

However, D also has some issues with verb tense. That is why I found it difficult to settle in on D. Ron explains it here https://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/pre ... t3407.html

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