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by nisagl750 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:54 am
SammyJaggi wrote:if 2 trains, each 400m long, travel on parallel tracks at a speed of 90 mph in 30mph towards each other, then how long will it take to cross each other in seconds
I wonder why train length is in meters and speed in Miles/Hr.
Anyways I'll go with the approximation.

Since they are travelling towards each other, relative speed = 90+30 = 120mph
approximating 1mile =1.6Km, 120mph = 192 Kmph (For simplicity I'll take it as 198Kmph)
198kmph = 55 meters/sec

Time = 800/55 seconds

What are the options??? and the OA?
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by SammyJaggi » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:14 am
Options are
20s
15s
12s
10s
8s

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by nisagl750 » Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:29 am
SammyJaggi wrote:Options are
20s
15s
12s
10s
8s
IMO Answer should be B, 15sec

What is the Official Answer?

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by Tommy Wallach » Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:08 am
Hey Everyone,

This is a deeply bizarre question, and I'd encourage you to be careful where you draw your material from. There are a lot of people writing questions without a strong understanding of what the GMAT does. If you're paraphrasing, this could possibly be made into a real question, but as written, it's just not going to fly. This is for a few reasons:

1) No question in the universe (or none I've seen) is going to mix meters with feet. You might get a question that mixes minutes with hours (Requiring a translation) or miles with feet, but you'll never see one that goes from imperial units to non-imperial units.

2) This question doesn't expressly state where the trains start relative to each other. I suppose we're meant to assume they're nose-to-nose, like so?

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But any real question would be VERY explicit about that.

3) If the answer is going to be approximate, the question would ask for the approximate time.

Okay, now that's that out of the way, Nisagl has it right.

For the sake of fun/reality, I'm going to change 400 meters each into 1200 feet each, to make this more standard (the question would then also say 1 mile = 5280 feet). Once this is done, we can get out our trusty RTD chart (which you should ALWAYS use on rates questions), and solve.

Remember that we can use relative rates here, based on the following rules:

1) If two things are going in opposite directions (either away from or towards each other): add the rates.

2) If two things are going in the same direction: subtract the rates.

In this case, the two trains are going in opposite directions. The only tough thing we need to do is translate our miles per hour into feet per second (assuming that the answer choices were in seconds). 120 miles per hour would be 2 miles per minute, and 2/60 = 1/30 miles per second.

Translated into feet, that's 5280/30 feet per second, which is 176. (You can do this in your head by thinking like so: 3000 = 100 * 30, 6000 = 200 * 30 --> 5280 = 6000 - 720, and 720/30 = 24 --> so 200 - 24 = 176. If that doesn't make sense, you better know how to long divide!).

Rate * Time = Distance

Relative Rate 176 t 1200feet

1200/176 could be ballparked --> 200 goes into 1200 six times, and 150 goes into 1200 eight times, so 7 is probably a safe bet. Again, you could also long divide to get an exact answer.

Hope that helps!

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There you go. I answered a different question, but a more realistic one!

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by lunarpower » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:49 am
second on just about everything tommy says, although a clarification is in order here:
Tommy Wallach wrote:1) No question in the universe (or none I've seen) is going to mix meters with feet. You might get a question that mixes minutes with hours (Requiring a translation) or miles with feet, but you'll never see one that goes from imperial units to non-imperial units.
there have been GMATprep problems with conversions between kilometers and miles. (here's one: https://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/did ... t4563.html)

on the other hand, the most important thing to know, regarding these conversions, is that you won't have to memorize ANY conversions other than those involving time units.
i.e., 60 seconds in a minute, 60 minutes in an hour, 3600 seconds in an hour ... and that's pretty much it.

the basic reason is that those are the only units that are actually used in every country in the world; any other memorized conversion would present a cultural bias, and so would be thrown off the test.
in fact, you don't even have to know metric prefixes; if those are in there (e.g., 1 meter = 1000 millimeters), then they will tell you all of those every single time.
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