Need urgent help in pronouns: he/him

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by vineeshp » Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:56 am
It is him.
For example, In a scenario where you are debating with a friend whether someone you saw is ur friend or not, you must say. "It is him". That is the usage.

In a scenario where you are saying, It is ABC who chose this place. It is he who chose this outfit also works in this case but a sentence, "it is he" is never right. Also on the GMAT the right answer would be He chose this place.
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by Jim@Grockit » Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:13 am
vineeshp wrote:It is him.
For example, In a scenario where you are debating with a friend whether someone you saw is ur friend or not, you must say. "It is him". That is the usage.

In a scenario where you are saying, It is ABC who chose this place. It is he who chose this outfit also works in this case but a sentence, "it is he" is never right. Also on the GMAT the right answer would be He chose this place.
The first thing you said is not true. "It is him" is certainly in common usage in real life English, but "it is he" is actually the correct one. The verb "to be" should link two noun phrases in the same case (here, the nominative or subjective case "he" rather than the objective case "him").

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by vineeshp » Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:51 am
Ah thanks Jim. I felt that statement was a little awkward initially. But found nothing wrong. Thanks a lot.

@Ruch, Sorry I certainly stand corrected. :)
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by mundasingh123 » Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:31 am
Jim@Grockit wrote:
vineeshp wrote:It is him.
For example, In a scenario where you are debating with a friend whether someone you saw is ur friend or not, you must say. "It is him". That is the usage.

In a scenario where you are saying, It is ABC who chose this place. It is he who chose this outfit also works in this case but a sentence, "it is he" is never right. Also on the GMAT the right answer would be He chose this place.
The first thing you said is not true. "It is him" is certainly in common usage in real life English, but "it is he" is actually the correct one. The verb "to be" should link two noun phrases in the same case (here, the nominative or subjective case "he" rather than the objective case "him").
is this an inverted sentence
Another controversial sentence is
It is me/It is I
which one is correct
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by Frankenstein » Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:39 am
Hi,
Grammatically, the complement of 'to be' should be the pronoun in Nominative case only.
So, It is I is correct.
But, people started using 'It is me' and call it idiomatic English.
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by Ruch12345 » Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:35 am
So, in GMAT, which case would be considered as correct?
It is me or It is I since one is correct idiomatically and another is correct grammatically.

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by arun@crackverbal » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:17 am
I don't think the GMAT tests the subject/object case of pronouns too much.

To answer this question always pose the question WHO/WHOM.

Who is it? It is I.

He wants whom? He wants ME.

As I said GMAT almost never tests you on this concept.

Here is a joke about pronouns - St.Peter is standing at Pearly Gates calling out the names of people who can enter Heaven. He goes "John" and a voice goes "Me, me me me me me me" and St.Peter says "Come on in". Then he goes "Jane" and a voice goes "Me, me me me me me me" and he says "In you go!". Then he says "Margret" and a voice at the back of the room says "I" and he says "There! Another High school English teacher". :)

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by Frankenstein » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:25 am
arun@crackverbal wrote: Here is a joke about pronouns - St.Peter is standing at Pearly Gates calling out the names of people who can enter Heaven. He goes "John" and a voice goes "Me, me me me me me me" and St.Peter says "Come on in". Then he goes "Jane" and a voice goes "Me, me me me me me me" and he says "In you go!". Then he says "Margret" and a voice at the back of the room says "I" and he says "There! Another High school English teacher". :)
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