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by sameerballani » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:09 am
Though now eaten in large quantities around the world and harmless, the tomato is a member of the
generally toxic nightshade family, including belladonna, and was once thought to be poisonous itself as a result.


A)

B) The tomato, though now eaten in large quantities around the world and harmless, is a member of the
generally toxic nightshade family, which includes belladonna, and it was therefore once thought to be
poisonous itself.
C) Once thought to be poisonous itself, the tomato is harmless and now eaten in large quantities around the world, and is a member of the generally toxic nightshade family, including belladonna.
D) Though now eaten in large quantities around the world and known to be harmless, the tomato was
once considered poisonous because it is a member of the generally toxic nightshade family, which
includes belladonna.
E) A member of the generally toxic nightshade family, including belladonna, the tomato was once
considered poisonous even though it is harmless and now eaten in large quantities around the world.

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by Frankenstein » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:35 am
Though now eaten in large quantities around the world and harmless, the tomato is a member of the generally toxic nightshade family, including belladonna, and was once thought to be poisonous itself as a result.

A)

B) The tomato, though now eaten in large quantities around the world and harmless, is a member of the generally toxic nightshade family, which includes belladonna, and it was therefore once thought to be poisonous itself.
C) Once thought to be poisonous itself, the tomato is harmless and now eaten in large quantities around the world, and is a member of the generally toxic nightshade family, including belladonna.
D) Though now eaten in large quantities around the world and known to be harmless, the tomato was once considered poisonous because it is a member of the generally toxic nightshade family, which includes belladonna.
E) A member of the generally toxic nightshade family, including belladonna, the tomato was once considered poisonous even though it is harmless and now eaten in large quantities around the world.

Only D suggests why they thought it was poisonous by stated the reason using 'because'.
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by sameerballani » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:56 am
What's wrong with comma+including ?
Can you xplain.
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Frankenstein wrote:Though now eaten in large quantities around the world and harmless, the tomato is a member of the generally toxic nightshade family, including belladonna, and was once thought to be poisonous itself as a result.

A)

B) The tomato, though now eaten in large quantities around the world and harmless, is a member of the generally toxic nightshade family, which includes belladonna, and it was therefore once thought to be poisonous itself.
C) Once thought to be poisonous itself, the tomato is harmless and now eaten in large quantities around the world, and is a member of the generally toxic nightshade family, including belladonna.
D) Though now eaten in large quantities around the world and known to be harmless, the tomato was once considered poisonous because it is a member of the generally toxic nightshade family, which includes belladonna.
E) A member of the generally toxic nightshade family, including belladonna, the tomato was once considered poisonous even though it is harmless and now eaten in large quantities around the world.

Only D suggests why they thought it was poisonous by stated the reason using 'because'.
Looks like there are many more errors. Do you have any specific thing to discuss?

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by Frankenstein » Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:18 am
sameerballani wrote:What's wrong with comma+including ?
Can you explain.
Hi,
comma+including, being an adverbial modifier modifies the entire clause to which it's attached, and is attributed to the subject of that clause. So, in this case it cannot modify family. 'which' serves the purpose.

Recently, there has been some good discussion about comma+including on one of the questions . If I find that question, I will post it as well.
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by abhishek.pati » Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:37 am
why is comma necessary before which .....without comma also it will work well...!!!

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by aspirant2011 » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:40 am
Frankenstein wrote:
sameerballani wrote:What's wrong with comma+including ?
Can you explain.
Hi,
comma+including, being an adverbial modifier modifies the entire clause to which it's attached, and is attributed to the subject of that clause. So, in this case it cannot modify family. 'which' serves the purpose.

Recently, there has been some good discussion about comma+including on one of the questions . If I find that question, I will post it as well.
As far as I remember, two words i.e including and implementing after comma modifies the preceding noun........i feel that including modifies family and should have been the apt usage

please correct me if I am wrong......

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by sameerballani » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:48 am
This is what i also believe. That comma+including is correctly modifying family.
aspirant2011 wrote:
Frankenstein wrote:
sameerballani wrote:What's wrong with comma+including ?
Can you explain.
Hi,
comma+including, being an adverbial modifier modifies the entire clause to which it's attached, and is attributed to the subject of that clause. So, in this case it cannot modify family. 'which' serves the purpose.

Recently, there has been some good discussion about comma+including on one of the questions . If I find that question, I will post it as well.
As far as I remember, two words i.e including and implementing after comma modifies the preceding noun........i feel that including modifies family and should have been the apt usage

please correct me if I am wrong......

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by Tani » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:55 am
"That" is restrictive and therefore a necessary part of the meaning of the sentence. You do not use a comma before "that". "Which" is non-restrictive and not necessary to the meaning of the sentence. You need a comma before "which".
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by aspirant2011 » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:09 am
Tani Wolff - Kaplan wrote:"That" is restrictive and therefore a necessary part of the meaning of the sentence. You do not use a comma before "that". "Which" is non-restrictive and not necessary to the meaning of the sentence. You need a comma before "which".
Hi Tani,

my question is basically whats wrong with the word including in the above sentence?????

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by Frankenstein » Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:13 pm
aspirant2011 wrote:
Frankenstein wrote:
sameerballani wrote:What's wrong with comma+including ?
Can you explain.
Hi,
comma+including, being an adverbial modifier modifies the entire clause to which it's attached, and is attributed to the subject of that clause. So, in this case it cannot modify family. 'which' serves the purpose.
Recently, there has been some good discussion about comma+including on one of the questions . If I find that question, I will post it as well.
As far as I remember, two words i.e including and implementing after comma modifies the preceding noun........i feel that including modifies family and should have been the apt usage

please correct me if I am wrong......
Hi,
Thanks Aspirant and Sameer for pointing this out. The usage of 'including' is correct in the options. I have just found the thread about 'including' which I mentioned earlier. 'including' is an exception from the general comma+verb-ing rule. I looked it from the general perspective.It was my mistake. So, I cannot eliminate C and E using this point. I still feel D is better because it conveys why they thought it was poisonous by stating the reason using 'because' as subordinating conjunction. In C 'and' is used as if they are two separate issues although they are related in the sense that one is caused by the other.Even E doesn't convey this.
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by gmatdriller » Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:56 am
A, B: "the tomato was thought to be poisonous itself"
C: "once thought to be poisonous itself, the tomato"

I think above expressions, as used in the various options, are
wordy/redundant..

D: clear, concise and communicates information in better grammatical format
than others.
E: confusing and distorts the original sentence.

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