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coordinate planes

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by gmatapril2011 » Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:34 am
Lines n and p lie on the xy plane. Is the slope of line n less than slope of line p
(1) Lines n and p intersect at (5, 1)
(2) The y-intercept of line n is greater than the y intercept of p



Now let's consider statement 2, that says that the y intercept of n is greater than that of the y intercept of p. The slopes could be unequal (think about intersecting lines), or we could have parallel lines, in which case the slopes are equal. So, statement 2 is not sufficient on its own.

Now let's consider the statements together. The lines intersect at (5,1), and n has the higher y intercept. Let's look at 3 cases:

1) Both have y intercepts above y=1
Since n intersects higher, then we know n had further to descend, so its slope is steeper (but more negative) than p's. Thus, p has a greater slope.

2) n has intercept above y=1, p has intercept below
n would have a negative slope and p a positive, so p has a greater slope

3) Both have y intercepts below y=1
Both have positive slopes, but p has further to ascend. Thus, p has a greater slope.

Since combining the information tells us that p always has a greater slope, we have sufficient information with both statements and the answer is C, NOT B.


can you please help me understand these three cases. i am facing very difficulty with coordinate planes.
in case 1) how do we know that since n's slope is steeper it is more negative than p


thank you.

which is the best source for coordinate planes. i coudn't find any like this in MANHATTAN BOOKS
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by force5 » Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:03 pm
Hi Its a pretty easy DS question if we don't complicate it. I am not sure what is the source however there is no actual need to make 3 cases.

each statement is unable to answer the question independently however when you combine the given information you get a point of intersection and information about Y intercept. If two lines intersect and common point and the y intercept of one is greater than other then we can say slope of one line is greater than the other WHY?

let line n be - Y= M1X+C
since it passes thru point (5,1) we can say m1=1-C/5
similarly line p = m2= 1-C/5

now you see at C ( y intercept) = 1 slope =0
hence greater the y intercept greater will be the slope..

hope it helps
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by gmatapril2011 » Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:50 pm
thank you for replying , but i was looking for some reasoning behind these cases. if any such question relating to coordinate planes appears on test how to tackle them. i am looking for some reasoning " why slope is negative if slope is more steeper. where can i find such information
thank you
force5 wrote:Hi Its a pretty easy DS question if we don't complicate it. I am not sure what is the source however there is no actual need to make 3 cases.

each statement is unable to answer the question independently however when you combine the given information you get a point of intersection and information about Y intercept. If two lines intersect and common point and the y intercept of one is greater than other then we can say slope of one line is greater than the other WHY?

let line n be - Y= M1X+C
since it passes thru point (5,1) we can say m1=1-C/5
similarly line p = m2= 1-C/5

now you see at C ( y intercept) = 1 slope =0
hence greater the y intercept greater will be the slope..

hope it helps
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