Another one related to pronouns- Pl. help

[ansumania]

Q-48 Reporting that one of its many problems had been the recent extended sales slump in women's apparel, the seven-store retailer said it would start a three-month liquidation sale in all of its stores.

a-its many problems had been the recent

b- its many problems has been the recently

c- its many problems is the recently

d-their many problems is the recent

e-their many problems had been the

how do we choose between a and b. Pl. explain.....

regards,

Ansumania

[kevincanspain]

Look for the subject of the sentence--- retailer

[thephoenix]

whenever I am in a situation of this kind always compare the options and look for changes and try to justify the change the one correct will always seem appropriate
here b/n A and B there are two changes One is where A uses an adj Recent ,B however uses adverb Recently , Now we know that adv modifies a verb, an adj, or another adverb and Adj modifies only and only Noun or Noun phrase.
here the thing modified is extended sales slump a noun phrase hence we need adj.
so A is the ans

second change is in tense A uses a past perfect tense and B a present perfect tense.
we know for using past tense we need to have two action , are their any in the s/c ; if we look clearly there are two actions one is Said and the other one is had been.Now as per the rule of using past perfect tense is to sequencing the actions . here sales slump occur before the retailer said .So A correctly uses tenses
hence A

[ansumania]

hi,

what is the definition of noun phrase..should it simply contain a noun ? extended sales slump. is it a noun because it contains "extended" which is a noun? Pl. expalin......

your earlier explanation really helped.

regards,

Ansumania

[rockeyb]

here the thing modified is extended sales slump a noun phrase hence we need adj.
so A is the ans

I am sorry mate but I dont quite agree with this part of your explanation.

extended sales slump in women's apparel - is not a noun phrase instead its a participle phrase .

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1.A participle is a verbal ending in -ing (present) or -ed, -en, -d, -t, or -n (past) that functions as an adjective, modifying a noun or pronoun.
2.A participial phrase consists of a participle plus modifier(s), object(s), and/or complement(s).
3.Participles and participial phrases must be placed as close to the nouns or pronouns they modify as possible, and those nouns or pronouns must be clearly stated.
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Although it clearly states that a participle modifies a NOUN or a Pronoun and acts as an ADJECTIVES, but ADJECTIVES can modify other ADJECTIVES right ?

Ex : A beautiful RED rose .


Please correct me if I am wrong

[kevincanspain]

hi,

what is the definition of noun phrase..should it simply contain a noun ? extended sales slump. is it a noun because it contains "extended" which is a noun? Pl. expalin......

your earlier explanation really helped.

regards,

Ansumania

extended here is an adjective modifying sales slump, which is a noun

recent is an adjective modifying the noun phrase extended sales slump


Note that we might say ' a recently extended freeway' to refer to a freeway that has recently been extended. In this case, recently is an adverb modifying the adjective extended

[kevincanspain]

here the thing modified is extended sales slump a noun phrase hence we need adj.
so A is the ans

I am sorry mate but I dont quite agree with this part of your explanation.

extended sales slump in women's apparel - is not a noun phrase instead its a participle phrase .

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1.A participle is a verbal ending in -ing (present) or -ed, -en, -d, -t, or -n (past) that functions as an adjective, modifying a noun or pronoun.
2.A participial phrase consists of a participle plus modifier(s), object(s), and/or complement(s).
3.Participles and participial phrases must be placed as close to the nouns or pronouns they modify as possible, and those nouns or pronouns must be clearly stated.
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Although it clearly states that a participle modifies a NOUN or a Pronoun and acts as an ADJECTIVES, but ADJECTIVES can modify other ADJECTIVES right ?

Ex : A beautiful RED rose .


Please correct me if I am wrong

beautiful modifies the noun red rose

a beautifully bound children's book --- here beautifully modifies the adjective bound

[Shawshank]

hi,

what is the definition of noun phrase..should it simply contain a noun ? extended sales slump. is it a noun because it contains "extended" which is a noun? Pl. expalin......

your earlier explanation really helped.

regards,

Ansumania

extended here is an adjective modifying sales slump, which is a noun

recent is an adjective modifying the noun phrase extended sales slump


Note that we might say ' a recently extended freeway' to refer to a freeway that has recently been extended. In this case, recently is an adverb modifying the adjective extended

How do we find out if the word "extwended" used above is a adjective or verb.

[ansumania]

ok.. so what is the conclusion that we reached?

Did we choose "recent" over "recently" because of its use in this particular case or does it comply with a particular rule of grammaar.

I got a bit confused. pl. expalin.

regards,

Ansumania

[akhpad]

A is the answer
That is the conclusion

This is from OG verbal review 2nd Edition

[subgeeth]

Ansumania:

Between A and B u can clearly find the answer is A
because of : said it would start a three

Reporting verb said clearly shows the action has happened in the past ( describing the future in the past ) would

So the problem already occured hence past perfect had been

Hope it clears

[tahitiboy]

I thought the Answer would be B,
coz adverbs modifies adj., verbs and adverbs
adjectives modifies nouns.
In this case, however, recent is an adjective and extended is adjective. How could "A" be the answer?

[kstv]

Q-48 Reporting that one of its many problems had been the recent extended sales slump in women's apparel, the seven-store retailer said it would start a three-month liquidation sale in all of its stores.
a-its many problems had been the recent b- its many problems has been the recently
c- its many problems is the recently d-their many problems is the recent
e-their many problems had been the

kevincanspain says - The subject is - The seven store retailer singular. The plural options 'their' in D and E are incorrect.
between A,B & C the explanation given at
https://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/og- ... -t485.htmlis equally good.
recently extended gives the impression that the store is extending it , like recently extended promotional offer.
there are two actions the later is the liquidation process so past perfect had been for the earlier action is correct.
But, as per Manhattan SC guide - If more than one action in a sentence occurred at different times in the past , you must use the past perfect tense for the earlier action and the simple past for the later action.
The later action is liquadation to be undertaken in the future.
Cannot reconcile :