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by rockeyb » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:39 pm
Brief Psychotherapy requires far fewer hours and costs far less money than traditional psychoanalysis and so will hopefully prove to be an effective treatment for many of the large amount of people currently seeking therapy .

(A)will hopefully prove to be an effective treatment for many of the large amount
(B)will prove hopefully to be an effective treatment for many of the large amount
(C) hopefully will prove to be an effective treatment for many of the large number
(D)will, it is hoped , prove to be an effective treatment for many of the large number
(E)will , it is hoped, prove to be an effective treatment for many of the large amount

Please explain your answer .

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by thephoenix » Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:17 am
IMO D

hopefully is always wrong on GMAT
a,b;c are out and we need number of people
so D
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by Shawshank » Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:44 am
thephoenix wrote:IMO D

hopefully is always wrong on GMAT
a,b;c are out and we need number of people
so D
Hopefully is ALMOST always wrong in GMAT.

AM confused between C and D.

One question -- What does "It" in D refer to.. am not clear about that

So IMO -- C

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by subgeeth » Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:18 am
https://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.p ... 61122-here is a good explanation of why hopefully is wrong

but I am not convinced with D either as Shawshank pointed out it refers to what?
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by rockeyb » Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:20 am
subgeeth wrote:https://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.p ... 61122-here is a good explanation of why hopefully is wrong

but I am not convinced with D either as Shawshank pointed out it refers to what?
Hey the link dose not work .
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by subgeeth » Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:24 am
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by rockeyb » Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:42 am
subgeeth wrote:oops sorry

https://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.p ... e=19961122


can u check now
Yup it works thanks mate good work .

Well still I would say we can not just discard a sentence because it contains HOPEFULLY unless we have other reasons to do so .

OR we have better alternatives as in this case .

but I am not convinced with D either as Shawshank pointed out it refers to what?

IT here refers to " to be an effective treatment for many"

This is what we call as n place holder IT that dose not really refer to an noun antecedent .These will almost always be at the start of the sentence and followed by T

Ex : IT is important THAT he attends the meeting tomorrow .

IT is a crime TO steal from neighbor's garden .

In both the examples IT dose not have an antecedent .

Hope this helps . OA - D .
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by prinit » Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:15 am
rockeyb wrote:Brief Psychotherapy requires far fewer hours and costs far less money than traditional psychoanalysis and so will hopefully prove to be an effective treatment for many of the large amount of people currently seeking therapy .

(A)will hopefully prove to be an effective treatment for many of the large amount
(B)will prove hopefully to be an effective treatment for many of the large amount
(C) hopefully will prove to be an effective treatment for many of the large number
(D)will, it is hoped , prove to be an effective treatment for many of the large number
(E)will , it is hoped, prove to be an effective treatment for many of the large amount

Please explain your answer .

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Well, I picked up E. Can anyone explain whats wrong with E. large number Vs large amount
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by subgeeth » Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:31 am
Do you say there are number of people or amount of people ?
large amount of people -can people be measured in quantity nope numbers they are countable

we say large amount of water or fluid which we cannot count
large number of people is the correct usage
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by prinit » Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:28 am
subgeeth wrote:Do you say there are number of people or amount of people ?
large amount of people -can people be measured in quantity nope numbers they are countable

we say large amount of water or fluid which we cannot count
large number of people is the correct usage
thanks..my bad..just missed the antecedent ...that make sense
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by Shawshank » Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:29 pm
IT here refers to " to be an effective treatment for many"

This is what we call as n place holder IT that dose not really refer to an noun antecedent .These will almost always be at the start of the sentence and followed by T

Ex : IT is important THAT he attends the meeting tomorrow .

IT is a crime TO steal from neighbor's garden .

In both the examples IT dose not have an antecedent .

Hope this helps . OA - D .
That is something new... PLACEHOLDER STuff.. Thanks a Lot Rockey and subgeeth
I have 2 questions..
1) How do we recognise if "IT" used in a sentence has an antecedent missing OR is a placeholder.
2) Do we have any threads with Expert comments on this Placeholder..
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by rockeyb » Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:00 am
Shawshank wrote:
IT here refers to " to be an effective treatment for many"

This is what we call as n place holder IT that dose not really refer to an noun antecedent .These will almost always be at the start of the sentence and followed by T

Ex : IT is important THAT he attends the meeting tomorrow .

IT is a crime TO steal from neighbor's garden .

In both the examples IT dose not have an antecedent .

Hope this helps . OA - D .
That is something new... PLACEHOLDER STuff.. Thanks a Lot Rockey and subgeeth
I have 2 questions..
1) How do we recognise if "IT" used in a sentence has an antecedent missing OR is a placeholder.
2) Do we have any threads with Expert comments on this Placeholder..
Well I think you need to refer to official explanation then read MGMAT SC book chapter 12 .This chapter will answer both the above questions .
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