GMAT or LSAT

[nicktimoshenko]

are questions in book "1000 critical reasoning question" form GMAT or from LSAT

Questions in this book unlike in "1000 sc" separated on many tests (Test a, test b, test c ) Each test contains 20 questions.

first question:

"TEST A
Time 30 minutes 20 Questions
1. Mr. Janeck: I don't believe Stevenson will win the election for governor. Few voters are willing to elect a businessman ..."

Thanks

[Osirus@VeritasPrep]

The only question types from the LSAT that don't overlap are the following:

Point at Issue (these questions give you two speakers and ask about a point that they disagree over)
Justify the conclusion (these require a knowledge of conditional reasoning, these questions are harder strengthen questions)

Cannot Be True (these are extreme weakening questions)

Other than those, the LSAT Logical Reasoning and GMAT Critical Reasoning are similar.

[nicktimoshenko]

as I understood this book contains questions from LSAT. But they are similar to those in GMAT, so useful for preparation. But questions "Point at Issue", "Justify the conclusion" and "Cannot Be True" do not exist in GMAT thus studying them is wasting time.

and another question. are questions from LSAT harder then those in GMAT, or they are the same?

[Osirus@VeritasPrep]

as I understood this book contains questions from LSAT. But they are similar to those in GMAT, so useful for preparation. But questions "Point at Issue", "Justify the conclusion" and "Cannot Be True" do not exist in GMAT thus studying them is wasting time.

and another question. are questions from LSAT harder then those in GMAT, or they are the same?

They are definitely harder, so it is the equivalent of practicing with 700-800 level questions.

[Testluv]

Actually, there are several question types on the LSAT that I have yet to see in any official released GMAT material: parallel reasoning, method of argument, all of the principle sub-types, point at issue, and certain kinds of inference questions. Also, even for those question types that are the same, they show up in different ratios on the test. For example, on the GMAT, flaw questions comprise only 3% of all CR questions; conversely, flaw is a very common question type on the LSAT.

Furthermore, aside from question types, there are other relevant differences between LSAT and GMAT: the two tests are concerned about testing different skills. The language used in GMAT questions is fairly straightforward and concise; in contrast LSAT arguments use complicated grammatical arrangements, and are very wordy. LSAT often tests formal logic, both conditional statements, and technical conventions around "loose" formal logic; the GMAT never tests this stuff.

Also note that 1000CR is a disreputable source, and you should NOT use it; it will hurt you more than it will help you.

[nicktimoshenko]

Actually, there are several question types on the LSAT that I have yet to see in any official released GMAT material: parallel reasoning, method of argument, all of the principle sub-types, point at issue, and certain kinds of inference questions. Also, even for those question types that are the same, they show up in different ratios on the test. For example, on the GMAT, flaw questions comprise only 3% of all CR questions; conversely, flaw is a very common question type on the LSAT.

Furthermore, aside from question types, there are other relevant differences between LSAT and GMAT: the two tests are concerned about testing different skills. The language used in GMAT questions is fairly straightforward and concise; in contrast LSAT arguments use complicated grammatical arrangements, and are very wordy. LSAT often tests formal logic, both conditional statements, and technical conventions around "loose" formal logic; the GMAT never tests this stuff.

Also note that 1000CR is a disreputable source, and you should NOT use it; it will hurt you more than it will help you.

I noticed too that arguments in LSAT are longer. I am not native speaker so read them two times for understanding. But gmat contain more difficult worlds.

Thanks for advise

[bigmonkey31]

LSAT LR is definitely tougher... the material is more wordy and contains a lot of small word changes that create tough to follow logic flows. Having said that, after doing a couple LSAT LRs with the Kaplan explanations, the GMAT CR seem almost like cake.

They're definitely very good practice and will push you in CR.