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710 - q47, v41

by toaster55 » Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:57 pm
OK guys, here we go:

BACKGROUND:

Male, 27, English is a third language, Educated in top US liberal arts college. Non-traditional/non-Quant background.

PREPARATION

Kaplan Premier
Kaplan 800
Cracking the GMAT
Manhattan GMAT Sentence Correction Guide.
Official Guide to GMAT
Verbal/Quant Guide to GMAT
GMAT Prep
PowerPrep

There are a number of absolutely amazing detailed posts out there so instead of boring you with a full run down, I’ll try to summarize my personal experience in a number of DO’s and DON’ts. Feel free to let me know if you have any questions I’ll be more than happy to answer any queries.

1. Don’t make the same mistake the I did: as you can see I got too many books and ended up loosing focus and stamina after a few weeks of preparation. Therefore, my suggestion is this: choose either Kaplan Premier or Princeton Review book as a warm up guide - to understand the concepts and get comfortable with the format. Once you’re done with either of those books move on to Official Guides.
2. Get help. My last attempt to take the GMAT was not my first one. At some point in my preparation process I realized that I hit the wall with a couple of algebraic concepts but hoped that it will not prevent me from getting a good score on quant. Wrong. My score improved only after I admitted that I could not make progress on my own (I had to learn it a hard way). I decided to get a couple of session with a tutor, which was expensive but not more expensive then re-taking the GMAT. I never took a course, so I cannot comment if it makes sense to register for one, but it is my understanding that most courses are overpriced, do not provide adequate personal instruction and generally aim to coach to score in mid/upper 600’s not to break the 700 barrier.
3. Take as many official tests as you can. Installing and uninstalling GMAT Prep and PowerPrep proved to an invaluable tool. There is not better way to prepare than taking tests over and over again. Some people will say that you need to study smart than to study hard: do both instead. Work over your mistakes, if necessary get a tutor (see point 2) but at the end of the day you need to build a skill set to solve the problem under 2 minutes and this will only come with practice. You will also need an almost intuitive understanding of GMAT questions are looking for, and again practice is absolutely key here.
4. Finally, keep visiting this forum. Read the posts for information, get feedback, ask questions. Read about people’s mistakes and more importantly success. This will keep you motivated.

ENDGAME:TEST DAY

My test was scheduled for 12:30pm, so I got up late, had a nice breakfast, and reviewed a few key concepts to warm up. I got to the test center in advance, registered and started the test early. AWA was OK, not my dream questions but seeing that on average people get good score on AWA, my strategy was not to do fabulously great but to get through it with a decent essay but save my mental energy for Quant section, which was always the my biggest challenge.
In a way GMAT is a like endurance running – a good result will depend as much on energy saving as on time management and good prep.
Anyway, I digress. After getting over with AWA, I took an optional break and got back to the Quant Section. This is where things started to get wrong. Despite my effort to stay on schedule I ended up running out of time and guessed on the last couple of questions. Moreover, last 7-8 questions were absolute killers, and I cannot say for sure how many mistakes I made. It could be that the algorithm is indeed designed to give more weight to earlier questions or it could be that I did answer later questions correctly – I will never know. The lesson that I took away is this – whatever happens on GMAT stay positive. It has been said before but I cannot stress this enough: GMAT is as much about composure and ability manage stress as about anything else. You might be getting horrible questions, but don’t let that bring you down - refocus and move on.

After quant I took another break and got back for the final round. I was stronger in Verbal but again I managed to run out of time and guessed on a couple of questions at the end. This mostly happened because I spent too much time on critical reasoning, which was my forte so I simply did not want to give up on questions without finding a perfect answer. I paid dearly for it – I think that it might have cost me at least 10-20 points on my total GMAT score.


FINAL WORDS:

I have taken GMAT 3 times – scoring 630, 580, and 710 respectively. My second time was the worst – and that’s despite the fact that I invested another month in preparation after scoring a (relatively) decent 630. It never made any sense to me, I guess GMAT works in mysterious ways. I am not a quant guy and I am not an English native speaker so both sections of GMAT proved to be challenging. This leads me to believe that if I scored 700+ so can most people on this forum. Don’t give up, be honest about what you don’t know and be ready to invest some time in it – and you’ll beat the GMAT. Good luck!
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by goblue2010 » Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:46 pm
That's awesome! I hope I can follow in your footsteps. I've gotten a 630 and a 590 (also studied an extra month and I was devastated). How long did you study between exam 2 and 3?

Also, what did you do to keep your cool and to control your anxiety? This was my biggest problem.

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by goblue2010 » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:34 am
Also, what does installing and uninstalling the GMAT prep software do? Does this minimize the amount of repeat questions you see?

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by rahulg83 » Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:45 am
Thanks for such a great post. really motivating stuff. I was franticly looking for a kind of inspiration from somewhere n here i got one. Really appreciate and congrats got the great score :)

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by toaster55 » Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:51 am
Hey goblue2010,

I took 7 months between 2 and 3 because I was getting frustrated and tired of GMAT after my second result so I wanted to make sure I'm gonna nail it the last time around. That being said, I probably did not touch the books for 3 months, so we're talking about effectively 4 months of prep.

I think the best way to control anxiety is to feel prepared for the test and to know that you can deal with anything that GMAT will throw at you. So just keep practicing the official tests, going over your mistakes until you feel that you know them by heart and will not repeat the mistakes if you see a similar question.

Which leads me to your second question: what does uninstalling GMAT software do? Basically, if you reinstall the software and run the tests again you will see up to 80% of new questions. GMAT Prep is a great way to build stamina and mental strength do deal with the real test. Save it for the last few weeks of your study tho - For the last 4 weeks of my prep I would take at least one full length CAT test on the weekend, and sometimes both on Saturday and Sunday.

If for some reason you will have an anxiety attack during the test take a few deep breaths - it will help.

PS. Thanks for congrats rahulg83.

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by goblue2010 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:25 pm
Thanks a lot for the advice, this will surely help me with my studies!

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Re: 710 - q47, v41

by El Cucu » Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:46 pm
toaster55 wrote:OK guys, here we go:

BACKGROUND:

Male, 27, English is a third language, Educated in top US liberal arts college. Non-traditional/non-Quant background.

PREPARATION

Kaplan Premier
Kaplan 800
Cracking the GMAT
Manhattan GMAT Sentence Correction Guide.
Official Guide to GMAT
Verbal/Quant Guide to GMAT
GMAT Prep
PowerPrep

There are a number of absolutely amazing detailed posts out there so instead of boring you with a full run down, I’ll try to summarize my personal experience in a number of DO’s and DON’ts. Feel free to let me know if you have any questions I’ll be more than happy to answer any queries.

1. Don’t make the same mistake the I did: as you can see I got too many books and ended up loosing focus and stamina after a few weeks of preparation. Therefore, my suggestion is this: choose either Kaplan Premier or Princeton Review book as a warm up guide - to understand the concepts and get comfortable with the format. Once you’re done with either of those books move on to Official Guides.
2. Get help. My last attempt to take the GMAT was not my first one. At some point in my preparation process I realized that I hit the wall with a couple of algebraic concepts but hoped that it will not prevent me from getting a good score on quant. Wrong. My score improved only after I admitted that I could not make progress on my own (I had to learn it a hard way). I decided to get a couple of session with a tutor, which was expensive but not more expensive then re-taking the GMAT. I never took a course, so I cannot comment if it makes sense to register for one, but it is my understanding that most courses are overpriced, do not provide adequate personal instruction and generally aim to coach to score in mid/upper 600’s not to break the 700 barrier.
3. Take as many official tests as you can. Installing and uninstalling GMAT Prep and PowerPrep proved to an invaluable tool. There is not better way to prepare than taking tests over and over again. Some people will say that you need to study smart than to study hard: do both instead. Work over your mistakes, if necessary get a tutor (see point 2) but at the end of the day you need to build a skill set to solve the problem under 2 minutes and this will only come with practice. You will also need an almost intuitive understanding of GMAT questions are looking for, and again practice is absolutely key here.
4. Finally, keep visiting this forum. Read the posts for information, get feedback, ask questions. Read about people’s mistakes and more importantly success. This will keep you motivated.

ENDGAME:TEST DAY

My test was scheduled for 12:30pm, so I got up late, had a nice breakfast, and reviewed a few key concepts to warm up. I got to the test center in advance, registered and started the test early. AWA was OK, not my dream questions but seeing that on average people get good score on AWA, my strategy was not to do fabulously great but to get through it with a decent essay but save my mental energy for Quant section, which was always the my biggest challenge.
In a way GMAT is a like endurance running – a good result will depend as much on energy saving as on time management and good prep.
Anyway, I digress. After getting over with AWA, I took an optional break and got back to the Quant Section. This is where things started to get wrong. Despite my effort to stay on schedule I ended up running out of time and guessed on the last couple of questions. Moreover, last 7-8 questions were absolute killers, and I cannot say for sure how many mistakes I made. It could be that the algorithm is indeed designed to give more weight to earlier questions or it could be that I did answer later questions correctly – I will never know. The lesson that I took away is this – whatever happens on GMAT stay positive. It has been said before but I cannot stress this enough: GMAT is as much about composure and ability manage stress as about anything else. You might be getting horrible questions, but don’t let that bring you down - refocus and move on.

After quant I took another break and got back for the final round. I was stronger in Verbal but again I managed to run out of time and guessed on a couple of questions at the end. This mostly happened because I spent too much time on critical reasoning, which was my forte so I simply did not want to give up on questions without finding a perfect answer. I paid dearly for it – I think that it might have cost me at least 10-20 points on my total GMAT score.


FINAL WORDS:

I have taken GMAT 3 times – scoring 630, 580, and 710 respectively. My second time was the worst – and that’s despite the fact that I invested another month in preparation after scoring a (relatively) decent 630. It never made any sense to me, I guess GMAT works in mysterious ways. I am not a quant guy and I am not an English native speaker so both sections of GMAT proved to be challenging. This leads me to believe that if I scored 700+ so can most people on this forum. Don’t give up, be honest about what you don’t know and be ready to invest some time in it – and you’ll beat the GMAT. Good luck!

Can you describe your 4 month preparation before hitting 710? (strategies, what did you do different from your last preparation, etc) Many tks in advance!! :)

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by toaster55 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:02 am
Thank you Eric, especially for starting this forum.

El Cuco Sorry for the late reply, but better late then never. I 'spent a lot of time on this forum during my last round of preparation and it had a major impact. Another big difference was that I spent time with a tutor focusing on my weaknesses. Above all, this gave me confidence, which was very important for the actual GMAT test. I also structured my day around GMAT preparation so I could squeeze in a few problems in the morning before work, then study a bit during lunch and do 2-3 hours of studying every week evening. I think this type of studying, when I practically immersed myself into GMAT worked well for me.

During weekends, on the other hand, I focused on taking full-length tests, both GMAT Prep and PowerPrep. I did take a few full-length tests during my initial preparation as well, but I really put a lot of emphasis on taking full-time simulations in preparation for my final test. I would recommend at least 8 weekends of full-length tests. In terms of books I spent much more time on Official Tests (Books/Old Paper Tests, etc) I hope this helps.

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by talk_to_me_cal » Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:37 pm
great score and debrief!

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by AceofSpades » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:03 pm
Congrats on the awesome score and thanks for sharing your experience with us. Inspirational stuff!

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Congrats !

by barira1 » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:45 pm
:) Glad to hear ur score , Congrats !