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by moneyman » Sun May 04, 2008 2:13 am
If two of the four expressions x+y,x+5y,x-y and 5x-y are chosen at random , what is the probability that their product will be of the form x^2-(by)^2, where b is an integer??

1/2

1/3

1/4

1/5

1/6

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Re: GMAT expressions

by Stuart@KaplanGMAT » Sun May 04, 2008 8:33 am
moneyman wrote:If two of the four expressions x+y,x+5y,x-y and 5x-y are chosen at random , what is the probability that their product will be of the form x^2-(by)^2, where b is an integer??

1/2

1/3

1/4

1/5

1/6
When a common formula applies, it's always good to start by writing down the formula.

Here, we know that:

probability = (# of desired outcomes)/(total # of possibilities)

We're choosing 2 items out of 4. So, the total # of possibilities is:

4C2 = 4!/2!2! = 24/4 = 6.

Therefore, the basic denominator is 6. Eliminate 1/4 and 1/5 (the answer could be 1/2 or 1/3 after cancelling).

Next, we need to calculate the # of products that can be written as the question demands.

If we recognize the new expression as a difference of squares (a^2 - b^2) our life becomes easier. The only way to form a difference of squares is to multiply:

(a + b) and (a - b).

The only two expressions in this form are (x+y) and (x-y). So, there's only one pair of expressions that give us what we want.

Therefore, 1 out of 6 possible outcomes matches the requirement: choose 1/6.
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by moneyman » Sun May 04, 2008 8:50 am
Its given in the problem that b is an integer..I tried using 1 for b and got the expression right but I was stuck using values like 2,3,4..etc to see if there is any other expression..What is my mistake here??
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by jaykay123 » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:54 pm
Stuart Kovinsky wrote:
moneyman wrote:If two of the four expressions x+y,x+5y,x-y and 5x-y are chosen at random , what is the probability that their product will be of the form x^2-(by)^2, where b is an integer??

1/2

1/3

1/4

1/5

1/6
When a common formula applies, it's always good to start by writing down the formula.

Here, we know that:

probability = (# of desired outcomes)/(total # of possibilities)

We're choosing 2 items out of 4. So, the total # of possibilities is:

4C2 = 4!/2!2! = 24/4 = 6.

Therefore, the basic denominator is 6. Eliminate 1/4 and 1/5 (the answer could be 1/2 or 1/3 after cancelling).

Next, we need to calculate the # of products that can be written as the question demands.

If we recognize the new expression as a difference of squares (a^2 - b^2) our life becomes easier. The only way to form a difference of squares is to multiply:

(a + b) and (a - b).

The only two expressions in this form are (x+y) and (x-y). So, there's only one pair of expressions that give us what we want.

Therefore, 1 out of 6 possible outcomes matches the requirement: choose 1/6.
I'm also having trouble with this problem. 4 choose 2 gives the number of unordered 2-groups, right? (this may be incorrect- please let me know if I'm misremembering) If so, the answer should be (c) because both {(a+b),(a-b)} and {(a-b),(a+b)} are viable subsets...

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by jaykay123 » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:57 pm
...nevermind, i got it. been staring at gmat problems for too many hours =)

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by ssuarezo » Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:04 am
Stuart Kovinsky wrote:
Next, we need to calculate the # of products that can be written as the question demands.

If we recognize the new expression as a difference of squares (a^2 - b^2) our life becomes easier. The only way to form a difference of squares is to multiply:

(a + b) and (a - b).

The only two expressions in this form are (x+y) and (x-y). So, there's only one pair of expressions that give us what we want.

Therefore, 1 out of 6 possible outcomes matches the requirement: choose 1/6.
Stuart:

One question: Why did you assume coeficient=1 (a+b) and (a-b)? The stems tells x^2 - by^2, and that b is an integer, different from 1, as in the case of x, so ... why not to choose (x+5y) (x-5y)??? .. I know th answer is the same, but, that will not always be the case.

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by Stuart@KaplanGMAT » Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:05 pm
ssuarezo wrote:
Stuart Kovinsky wrote:
Next, we need to calculate the # of products that can be written as the question demands.

If we recognize the new expression as a difference of squares (a^2 - b^2) our life becomes easier. The only way to form a difference of squares is to multiply:

(a + b) and (a - b).

The only two expressions in this form are (x+y) and (x-y). So, there's only one pair of expressions that give us what we want.

Therefore, 1 out of 6 possible outcomes matches the requirement: choose 1/6.
Stuart:

One question: Why did you assume coeficient=1 (a+b) and (a-b)? The stems tells x^2 - by^2, and that b is an integer, different from 1, as in the case of x, so ... why not to choose (x+5y) (x-5y)??? .. I know th answer is the same, but, that will not always be the case.

Thank you,
Silvia.
The correct answer will be in the form of (x+y)(x-y); x and y can represent anything.

So, if there had been the expressions (56 + 7z) and (56 - 7z), those would also have given us a desired result.
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by nicolas » Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:06 am
Hi Stuart,

even though this discussion is 2 years old, I guess it might still be useful posting alternative solutions, as there might probably be others like me that are still reading the stuff.. ;)

So in this case, after one figured out that there is actually only 1 combination fulfilling the requirements, namely (x+y)*(x-y), one can also calculate:

1/2 * 1/3 = 1/6, because in the first draw we have a probability of 1/2 of catching either (x+y) or (x-y), and in the second draw a prob of 1/3 for catching the missing term.

We could also come up with it by calculating:
(1/4 * 1/3) * 2 = 1/6, this is the same logic as above, only that we consider the probabilities of catching either (x+y) or (x-y) in the first draw separately.

This is essentially the same as calculating 1/(4C2)

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by Thouraya » Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:08 am
Hi @Stuart,

We have these expressions: x+y,x+5y,x-y and 5x-y

Why can't we choose either (x+y) and (x-y) OR (x+5y) and (x-y)? Why is the second option wrong to consider? Thank you!

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by mcdesty » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:11 am
(x+by)(x-by)

We are looking for a structure similar to x+by or x-by
Eliminate 5x-y, x+5y.
We are left with x+y, x-y.The probability of choosing x+ y or x-y from the four expressions is
2/4..Without replacement we are left with one, and there are three expressions left; So the probability of choosing the next one is 1/3...
When we multiply the two we get 2/4*1/3 = 1/6