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Nationwide, 90 percentile Q.

by tanviet » Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:56 am
The rate of increase in the number of Black elected officials nationwide was greater last year than in any other year since 1975, and the rate of increase for Black women elected to office was especially high

a
b, the increased rate in the number of Black elected officials nationwide was greater last year than in

c, the rate of increase in the number of Black elected officials was greater nationwide last year than

d, the number of Black elected officials nationwide increased at a rate that was greater last year than

e, Nationwide, the rate at which the number of Black elected officials increased last year was greater than

pls, give full explanation of this Question.
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Re: Nationwide, 90 percentile Q.

by iamcste » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:21 am
duongthang wrote:The rate of increase in the number of Black elected officials nationwide was greater last year than in any other year since 1975, and the rate of increase for Black women elected to office was especially high

a
b, the increased rate in the number of Black elected officials nationwide was greater last year than in

c, the rate of increase in the number of Black elected officials was greater nationwide last year than

d, the number of Black elected officials nationwide increased at a rate that was greater last year than

e, Nationwide, the rate at which the number of Black elected officials increased last year was greater than

pls, give full explanation of this Question.

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Re: Nationwide, 90 percentile Q.

by iamcste » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:23 am
iamcste wrote:
duongthang wrote:The rate of increase in the number of Black elected officials nationwide was greater last year than in any other year since 1975, and the rate of increase for Black women elected to office was especially high

a
b, the increased rate in the number of Black elected officials nationwide was greater last year than in

c, the rate of increase in the number of Black elected officials was greater nationwide last year than

d, the number of Black elected officials nationwide increased at a rate that was greater last year than

e, Nationwide, the rate at which the number of Black elected officials increased last year was greater than

pls, give full explanation of this Question.
D

In all , but D, we have subject as rate, which cannot be greater or more. Rate can be high or low

Secondly, "Nationwide" is akwardly placed in C and E

B-"Increased rate" is akwward.

Also-I always learn something new in such type of questions
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by karmayogi » Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:10 am
What about 'than in'?

"...rate...was greater last year...than [in] any other year...'

In the absense of 'in', it looks like we are comparing rates with year.

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by jimmiejaz » Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:42 am
i will go with A.
as pointed out by karmayogi, than last year sounds awkward.
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by VodkaBoy » Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:37 pm
karmayogi wrote:What about 'than in'?

"...rate...was greater last year...than [in] any other year...'

In the absense of 'in', it looks like we are comparing rates with year.

Thoughts????

It doesn't look like ELLIPSIS...
Looks like A. (B is awkward)
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by niraj_a » Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:18 pm
i think C, D, and E are out off the bat since we need an 'in' at the end.

between A and B, i would choose A.
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by umaa » Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:53 pm
"than in" is needed to compare last year with all the years rate. So, C, D and E ruled out.

B - Awkward

IMO A
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Re: Nationwide, 90 percentile Q.

by sudhir3127 » Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:12 pm
duongthang wrote:The rate of increase in the number of Black elected officials nationwide was greater last year than in any other year since 1975, and the rate of increase for Black women elected to office was especially high

a
b, the increased rate in the number of Black elected officials nationwide was greater last year than in

c, the rate of increase in the number of Black elected officials was greater nationwide last year than

d, the number of Black elected officials nationwide increased at a rate that was greater last year than

e, Nationwide, the rate at which the number of Black elected officials increased last year was greater than

pls, give full explanation of this Question.
i go with A

My first impression was that we dont need "in" but without it we would compare last year's rate with any other year(1975)

Left with A and B

B - Increased rate is inappropriate usage and changes the meaning.
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by Jatinder » Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:45 pm
D

A- The rate of increase in the number of Black elected officials nationwide was greater last year than in any other year since 1975

B--same as A
C--same as A

E--Nationwide is awkwardly placed

@iamcste, In D also, we are using "greater" for the "rate" itself.
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by mudit_verma » Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:00 am
I will go with concept of parallelism

'and' or 'but' joins to logically parallel clauses, so 2nd clause state:

and the rate of increase for Black women elected to office was especially high

So first clause should be parallel i.e. should use 'the rate of increase'

Thus we are left with A or C as a choice

In C sentence is modifying the meaning of the original sentence
C. the rate of increase in the number of Black elected officials was greater nationwide last year than

indicating that the rate is greater nation wide rather than the number of Black elected nation wide.


So i will choose --A
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by iamcste » Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:05 am
Jatinder wrote:D

@iamcste, In D also, we are using "greater" for the "rate" itself.

you can say that I chose an Oasis in the desert..

Also, I went by the format. "The No of X greater than Y is correct"

( I guess Ron gave it somewhere for the gyrf* bird problem)

I believed X as subject here....( although I could see the rate of greater than in between)

anyway, these are your favourite qtns, sir.
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by lunarpower » Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:35 am
first of all, this question isn't terribly well written. in particular, it uses the transition "and", which is a sloppy transition to use here.

the message that the second clause is trying to convey is that of a highlight, or a component of the aforementioned phenomenon that's even more special than the rest of the phenomenon. "and", which connects two different clauses of equal importance, isn't terribly appropriate here; "and" makes it seem as though the black women aren't part of the black elected officials (clearly not the case).
i don't think the gmat would ever commit that sort of rhetorical error.

the sentence would be better written with, say, a semicolon:
blah blah blah black elected officials blah blah; the rate of increase for black women blah blah blah.

while this isn't a huge deal, it's enough to make me doubt the value of the source from which this problem came.
i googled the problem and it appears to have come from "gmat plus", which is by all accounts a sketchy source. ian stewart dissed it here.

analogy:
everyone on the team won at least two medals, and two of the players won five each --> inappropriate; "and" makes it seem as though those 2 players aren't part of the team, and/or their medals weren't included in the original statistic.
if "comma + and" is deleted and replaced with a semicolon, the sentence makes perfect sense.

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i would strike choice (d) for not including "in" before "any other year".
FACT: "last year" counts as if it were a prepositional phrase all by itself. you don't need to say "in last year"; in fact, that would be incorrect.
by contrast, you MUST include "in" with any construction other than "last year", "this year", or "next year" (there may be others, but i can't think of them at the moment).

however, one thing also troubles me about choice (a): it's wordy. it'd be better to say "x increased at a rate..." than to say "the rate of increase in x was..."

i vote (f): the choices are all faulty.

actually, i vote (u) for "unreliable source".
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