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OPEC gone Crazy!

by fruti_yum » Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:26 pm

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The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) had long been expected to announce a reduction in output to bolster sagging oil prices, but officials of the organization just recently announced that the group will pare daily production by 1.5 million barrels by the beginning of next year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output by a total of 500,000 barrels a day
A. year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output
B. year, but only if the output of non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, is trimmed
C. year only if the output of non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, would be trimmed
D. year only if non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were trimming output
E. year only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, trim output

OA after some discussion!
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Re: OPEC gone Crazy!

by madhur_ahuja » Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:02 pm

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The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) had long been expected to announce a reduction in output to bolster sagging oil prices, but officials of the organization just recently announced that the group will pare daily production by 1.5 million barrels by the beginning of next year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output by a total of 500,000 barrels a day
A. year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output
B. year, but only if the output of non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, is trimmed
C. year only if the output of non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, would be trimmed
D. year only if non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were trimming output
E. year only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, trim output
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by Shawshank » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:35 pm

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IMO -- E
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by viju9162 » Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:05 am

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Why not the answer "C"? if the output, ......, [then] would/were be trimmed
"Native of" is used for a individual while "Native to" is used for a large group
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by madhur_ahuja » Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:09 am

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viju9162 wrote:Why not the answer "C"? if the output, ......, [then] would/were be trimmed
Acc. to MGMAT, construction involving if and would together is wrong.
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by viju9162 » Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:23 am

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thanks Madhur.. So if ....[then] were is valid right? It is only with "would" is not possible..
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by madhur_ahuja » Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:33 am

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viju9162 wrote:thanks Madhur.. So if ....[then] were is valid right? It is only with "would" is not possible..
Yes, it is valid. But it can be gramatically wrong according to statement.

But If and would can never come together.
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by vikram_k51 » Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:44 am

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The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) had long been expected to announce a reduction in output to bolster sagging oil prices, but officials of the organization just recently announced that the group will pare daily production by 1.5 million barrels by the beginning of next year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output by a total of 500,000 barrels a day
A. year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output
B. year, but only if the output of non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, is trimmed
C. year only if the output of non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, would be trimmed
D. year only if non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were trimming output
E. year only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, trim output
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IMHO

by kc_raj » Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:23 am

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iMHO A

nothing wrong with A,
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Re: IMHO

by Kebab » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:12 am

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kc_raj wrote:iMHO A

nothing wrong with A,
"if...were..." is used when people are talking about unreal situations.
In our case trimming output by non-OPEC countries is real.
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by rsadana1 » Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:39 am

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1)The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) had long been expected to announce a reduction {in output} to bolster sagging oil prices,
2)but officials {of the organization} just recently announced
3)that the group will pare daily production {by 1.5 million barrels} {by the beginning of next year},
4)but only if non-OPEC nations, {including Norway, Mexico, and Russia,} were to trim output {by a total of 500,000 barrels a day}

IMO Answer E
Notice the sentence construction – …group will pare…if “non-OPEC nations do something”
This is similar to the construction – if “something happens”, then “something else will happen”

Since the non-underlined sentence is future tense – “will pare”, the underlined portion must include simple present in the “if” clause. And hence Choice E is correct “trim output”
Why other choices are incorrect?
Choice A – if ..were.., then ..will pare… => which is incorrect. If were, then would. Also, but appears to be redundant with “if” already present to express the condition.
Choice B – “is trimmed” – is passive construction. Should avoid passive construction since non-underlined portion is in active voice. “the group will pare..”
Choice C – “would be trimmed” – is passive construction. Same reasoning as B. In addition, since the non-underlined sentence is future tense – “will pare”, the underlined portion must include simple present in the “if” clause and not past tense.
Choice D – “were trimming” – is incorrect since past tense is incorrect and furthermore continuous tense does not make sense in this context.
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by vcgmat » Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:13 pm

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Although im suspicious about "but only if ...", the last part (by a total of 500,000 barrels a day) of the sentence might be required ...
Hence IMO ... A
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by umaa » Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:12 pm

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IMO E.

A and B - BUT ONLY - Wrong

C - If and would are in the same clause. WRONG.

D - WERE TRIMMING OUTPUT. There is no hypothetical situation here.

E - CORRECT
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by [email protected] » Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:02 am

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The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) had long been expected to announce a reduction in output to bolster sagging oil prices
, but officials of the organization just recently announced that
the group will pare daily production by 1.5 million barrels by the beginning of next year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output by a total of 500,000 barrels a day

The subject verb pairs have been highlighted. Now let's move to POE.
A.year, but only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were to trim output - Comma + but here is connecting an indep clause with a dep clause. This is incorrect usage. That structure connects 2 indep clauses. The then clause uses future tense so we need present tense in the if clause.
B.year, but only if the output of non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, is trimmed - Same structural error with comma + but. Singular verb includes refers to plural subject nations.Is trimmed is past tense.
C.year only if the output of non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, would be trimmed - Would be trimmed is incorrect.
D.year only if non-OPEC nations, which includes Norway, Mexico, and Russia, were trimming output - Were trimming is incorrect. Same verb pronoun antecedent incompatibility error as in B.
E.year only if non-OPEC nations, including Norway, Mexico, and Russia, trim output - Correct.
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