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Suggestions for 5 schools to send GMAT scores

by whatthegmat » Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:20 pm
26 yr old Indian male.
Undergrad BE india - 87%
Grad School in US(top 5) - 3.8 GPA
GMAT - yet to take, expecting 720+
WorkEx(while applying) - 3.5 yrs(engg + product mgmt) for leading Software firm at San Francisco
Reco - expecting good recos based on personal interactions from manager, ex-director, SVP.

Post-MBA - industry jobs in general mgmt/leadership, consulting

I have made a rough list based on what I have read about bschools in the last 2 weeks. I am definitely appplying to INSEAD(sing) and ISB.

Please suggest other ones or help me choose 3 from these.
  • HBS
    Wharton
    Kellogg
    Booth
    Berkeley (in-state)
    Darden
    Tepper (alum)
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by apphelp » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:15 pm
whatthegmat wrote:26 yr old Indian male.
Undergrad BE india - 87%
Grad School in US(top 5) - 3.8 GPA
GMAT - yet to take, expecting 720+
WorkEx(while applying) - 3.5 yrs(engg + product mgmt) for leading Software firm at San Francisco
Reco - expecting good recos based on personal interactions from manager, ex-director, SVP.

Post-MBA - industry jobs in general mgmt/leadership, consulting

I have made a rough list based on what I have read about bschools in the last 2 weeks. I am definitely appplying to INSEAD(sing) and ISB.

Please suggest other ones or help me choose 3 from these.
  • HBS
    Wharton
    Kellogg
    Booth
    Berkeley (in-state)
    Darden
    Tepper (alum)
We would recommend Berkeley, Tepper & Darden. First two will like a profile like yours and Darden because HBS, Wharton, Kellogg, Booth look little tough.

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by whatthegmat » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:01 pm
apphelp wrote:
whatthegmat wrote:26 yr old Indian male.
Undergrad BE india - 87%
Grad School in US(top 5) - 3.8 GPA
GMAT - yet to take, expecting 720+
WorkEx(while applying) - 3.5 yrs(engg + product mgmt) for leading Software firm at San Francisco
Reco - expecting good recos based on personal interactions from manager, ex-director, SVP.

Post-MBA - industry jobs in general mgmt/leadership, consulting

I have made a rough list based on what I have read about bschools in the last 2 weeks. I am definitely appplying to INSEAD(sing) and ISB.

Please suggest other ones or help me choose 3 from these.
  • HBS
    Wharton
    Kellogg
    Booth
    Berkeley (in-state)
    Darden
    Tepper (alum)
We would recommend Berkeley, Tepper & Darden. First two will like a profile like yours and Darden because HBS, Wharton, Kellogg, Booth look little tough.

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Thanks for the feedback. Can you also comment on my chances/fit for Tuck/Sloan/Columbia ?
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by apphelp » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:05 pm
Tuck and Sloan fit well but here is the catch.

Tuck has close to 200 seats as compared to 400 seats on avg at any other top US school. So, acceptance rate for everyone is less.

Sloan wants to hear a good technology / entrepreneurship story from technology guys.

Columbia is finance oriented, so would not suggest that you to apply to that.

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by whatthegmat » Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:19 am
Thanks.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-gr ... ance-rates

After reading this article, I am developing the notion that I might have a better chance at Tuck/Kellogg than I originally thought. Is it a good idea to choose schools with better acceptance rates or is it just that the not-so widely popular schools receive applications from focussed candidates and they might actually be tougher to get into. Please comment.
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by MBAPrepAdvantage » Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:07 am
Your percentile is excellent for your undergraduate institution. But which undergraduate school in India did you attend because the tier would help us assess the strength of your academic background?
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by whatthegmat » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:09 pm
MBAPrepAdvantage wrote:Your percentile is excellent for your undergraduate institution. But which undergraduate school in India did you attend because the tier would help us assess the strength of your academic background?
undergrad school is 2nd tier but grad school is carnegie mellon.
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When you say 2nd tier do you mean an NIT or NIT-equivalent level?
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by Anil Kumar » Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:38 am
I think your criterion should not be based on acceptance rate of a school. Higher acceptance rate does not necessarily make your life easier. There are schools with even higher acceptance rates. The schools mentioned in the posts above are all good and it will be tough cracking schools like Sloan, Tuck, and Kellogg. Although Tuck has a relatively higher acceptance rate, you need to go out of the way to prove that you are indeed deeply interested (to the extent of being in love with them) in Tuck. And this has to be shown more in action than in words.
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by whatthegmat » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:51 am
Anil Kumar wrote:I think your criterion should not be based on acceptance rate of a school. Higher acceptance rate does not necessarily make your life easier. There are schools with even higher acceptance rates. The schools mentioned in the posts above are all good and it will be tough cracking schools like Sloan, Tuck, and Kellogg. Although Tuck has a relatively higher acceptance rate, you need to go out of the way to prove that you are indeed deeply interested (to the extent of being in love with them) in Tuck. And this has to be shown more in action than in words.
This is definitely helpful. Thanks.
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by whatthegmat » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:53 am
MBAPrepAdvantage wrote:When you say 2nd tier do you mean an NIT or NIT-equivalent level?
One of the numerous colleges under Anna University in Chennai. These are not the same level as NIT.
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by MBAPrepAdvantage » Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:50 am
I just noticed you wrote in-state for Berkeley. Does that make you a U.S. permanent resident rather than a work visa holder. If you are a U.S. permanent resident your application will be evaluated versus U.S. domestic applicants not versus the much more competitive Indian applicant pool.

If you are applying as an Indian applicant, your GMAT score takes on added importance because it points the admissions committee reviewer to either your superb grades (87%) or lesser ranked school. Wharton and HBS are probably too much of a long shot. Kellogg, Booth, and Haas are reaches. The Dardens (and Cornell's) of the world are more your target with Tepper as closer to a safety. Since you are on the West Coast you might wish to add UCLA Anderson to the mix.

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by whatthegmat » Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:40 pm
MBAPrepAdvantage wrote:I just noticed you wrote in-state for Berkeley. Does that make you a U.S. permanent resident rather than a work visa holder. If you are a U.S. permanent resident your application will be evaluated versus U.S. domestic applicants not versus the much more competitive Indian applicant pool.

If you are applying as an Indian applicant, your GMAT score takes on added importance because it points the admissions committee reviewer to either your superb grades (87%) or lesser ranked school. Wharton and HBS are probably too much of a long shot. Kellogg, Booth, and Haas are reaches. The Dardens (and Cornell's) of the world are more your target with Tepper as closer to a safety. Since you are on the West Coast you might wish to add UCLA Anderson to the mix.

Good luck,
Thanks for the detailed reply. I guess I wrongly assumed I would be an in-state student.

One follow-up question I have is the value of my full-time masters degree from Carnegie Mellon. You have highlighted the value of my UG scores in your review but what about the Grad school reputation and GPA. Also would a reco from a CMU prof be more valuable than a third reco from work.
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by MBAPrepAdvantage » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:38 pm
Graduate academic performance matters to some extent. But a school can normalize for undergraduate degrees since every applicant applies with one. This is not the case for graduate degrees.

Hypothetically, if you score a 770 on the GMAT, your academic profile would rock. Admissions committees would see a superior academic score and superior academic performance for both undergraduate and graduate school.

Hypothetically, if you score a 670 on the GMAT, admissions committees would see that your GMAT is below average (especially for the competitive Indian applicant group) and that you graduated from a lesser ranked school than did many of the other candidates applying.

No, do not substitute a recommendation from a CMU professor. The exception would be if you did something truly extraordinary there (e.g. a patent was filed for your research but even that might not be sufficient). What you can do is try to obtain the best GMAT score possible so the GMAT score substantiates your superb undergraduate and graduate school performance.

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by whatthegmat » Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:39 pm
MBAPrepAdvantage wrote:Graduate academic performance matters to some extent. But a school can normalize for undergraduate degrees since every applicant applies with one. This is not the case for graduate degrees.

Hypothetically, if you score a 770 on the GMAT, your academic profile would rock. Admissions committees would see a superior academic score and superior academic performance for both undergraduate and graduate school.

Hypothetically, if you score a 670 on the GMAT, your academic profile would rock the admissions committee would see that your GMAT is below average (especially for the competitive Indian applicant group) and that you graduated from a lesser ranked school than many of the other candidates applying.

No, do not substitute a recommendation from a CMU professor. The exception would be if you did something truly extraordinary there (e.g. a patent was filed for your research but even that might not be sufficient). What you can do is try to obtain the best GMAT score possible so the GMAT score substantiates your superb undergraduate and graduate school performance.

Good luck on the test,
Thank you very much. This gives a lot of clarity.
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