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by ronnie1985 » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:46 am
This is a Manhattan Challenge question and teh method provided by the expert is right.
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by Lifetron » Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:19 am
What's the difficulty level of this question ?

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by Ganesh hatwar » Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:25 pm
Rahul@gurome wrote:
goyalsau wrote:There are 100 tokens numbered from 1 to 100. In how many ways can two tokens be drawn simultaneously so that their sum is more than 100?
  • 4950
    5050
    2500
    2550
    5000
Thanks for the wonderul explanation

I got an answer 2525 ,, as i failed to taken into account ( 51,51) etc

So i did not know to choose between C or D

Is it better to guess lesser number than higher in such situations

Please help

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Careful!
This question is full of tricks and traps!

One trick is there are two categories, n ≤ 50 and n > 50 (as goyalsau mentioned). And another one is the tokens are drawn simultaneously! Thus (2, 99) and (99, 2) are basically same.

Now, let's proceed to solve the problem.
As mentioned earlier, let's divide the numbers in two categories.

Category 1: n ≤ 50
For 1 : 1 set -> (1, 100)
For 2 : 2 set -> (2, 99), (2, 100)
For 3 : 3 set -> (3, 98), (3, 99), (3, 100)
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For 50 : 50 set -> (50, 51), ... , (50, 99), (50, 100)

Total number of sets = 1 + 2 + 3 + ... + 50

Category 1: n > 50
For 51 : 50 set -> (50, 51), (51, 52), ... ,(51, 100) No (51, 51)
For 52 : 51 set -> (49, 52), (50, 52), ... ,(52, 100) No (52, 52)
For 53 : 52 set -> (48, 53), (49, 53), ... ,(53, 100) No (53, 53)
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For 100 : 99 set -> (1, 100), (2, 100) ... , (99, 100) No (100, 100)

Total number of sets = 50 + 51 + 52 + ... + 99


Therefore total number of sets = (1 + 2 + 3 + ... + 50) + (50 + 51 + 52 + ... + 99)
= (1 + 2 + 3 + ... + 99) + 50
= (99)*(99 + 1)/2 + 50
= 99*50 + 50
= 50*100
= 5000

Now for the second trap, all the set are counted twice.
Thus effective number of set = 5000/2 = 2500

The correct answer is C.

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by mehaksal » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:59 am
I need to brush my PnC concepts, I was about to follow a very bad approach..I demarcated the two sets, but then I thought of simple doing :-
51C1 * 50C1
and hence 2550..how is this approach wrong?

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by Brent@GMATPrepNow » Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:15 am
goyalsau wrote:There are 100 tokens numbered from 1 to 100. In how many ways can two tokens be drawn simultaneously so that their sum is more than 100?
A) 4950
B) 5050
C) 2500
D) 2550
E) 5000
Here's another approach.

Of the 2 selected numbers, one of them will be the smaller number and one will be the larger number.
Since the smaller can range from 1 to 99 (the smaller number cannot be 100), there are 99 cases to consider.

Note: for each case, we'll count the number of ways that the sum can be greater than 100.

Case 1: 1 is the smaller number, which means the larger number must be 100 (1 way for the sum to be greater than 100)
Case 2: 2 is the smaller number, so the larger number must be 99 or 100 (2 ways)
Case 3: 3 is the smaller number, so the larger number must be 98, 99 or 100 (3 ways)
Case 4: 4 is the smaller number, so the larger number must be 97, 98, 99 or 100 (4 ways)
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Case 50: 50 is the smaller number, so the larger number must be 51, 52,..., 99 or 100 (50 ways)

Case 51: 51 is the smaller number, so the larger number must be 52, 53,..., 99 or 100 (49 ways)
Case 52: 52 is the smaller number, so the larger number must be 53, 54,..., 99 or 100 (48 ways)
Case 53: 53 is the smaller number, so the larger number must be 54, 55..., 99 or 100 (47 ways)
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Case 98: 98 is the smaller number, so the larger number must be 99 or 100 (2 ways)
Case 99: 99 is the smaller number, so the larger number must be 100 (1 way)

So, when we add up the all of these cases we get (1+2+3+...+50)+(49+48+47+...+3+2+1)

To find these two sums, we'll use the fact that the sum of the positive integers from 1 to k equals k(k+1)/2

So, when we add all of the cases together we get 50(50+1)/2 + 49(49+1)/2 = 2500

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by Ankur87 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:01 am
goyalsau wrote:There are 100 tokens numbered from 1 to 100. In how many ways can two tokens be drawn simultaneously so that their sum is more than 100?



4950

5050

2500

2550

5000


simplest method :

Taking 2 tokens :

100+1
100+2
....
100+99
= 99 >> tokens

99+2
99+3
99+4
.....
99.98

=97 >> tokens
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52+49
=3 >> tokens

51+50
=1 >> tokens

TOTAL TOKENS :

1+3+5+7......99

= 50/2(2*1 + 49*2)
= 25(2 + 98)
= 2500

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by r_vgupta » Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:31 am
thebigkats wrote:thanks Rahul. Probably your way was faster. this is how got to this solution (although took me full 3 min :-(

for no 1: 100 (total 1)
2: 100, 99 (total 2)
3: 100, 99, 98 (total 3)
...
50: 100, .. 52, 51 (total 50)

51: 100..52, 50 (but 51, 50 was already counted so leave it) TOTAL = 49
52: 100..53, 51, 50, 49 (but 49, 50 and 51 are already counted so leave them). TOTAL = 48
53: 100..54, 53, 52, 51, 50, 49, 48 (but 53..48 are already counted so leave them) TOTAL = 47
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99: 100.., 98, 97..2 (but last ones except 100 are already counted so leave them) TOTAL = 1
100: all are already counted so TOTAL=0

So for first 50, total = n(n+1)/2 = 50(50+1)/2 = 25*51=1275
from 52..10, total = n(n+1)/2 = 49 (49+1)/2 = 25*49=1225

Total = 1275 + 1225 = 2500
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by Brent@GMATPrepNow » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:01 am
gughanbose wrote:What's the difficulty level of this question ?
This is an advanced-level question. 700+

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by rajeshsinghgmat » Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:51 am
(C) 2500

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by VishalK » Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:47 pm
For SUM to be 100 the following combinations are possible :

(1,99),(2,98).....(49,51),(50,50)

which comes to 50 different ways.

But the order of drawing tokens is also important.

so it can also be in this way :

(99,1),(98,2).....(51,49),(50,50)

which also counts to 50 different ways.


Therefore, Total no. of Ways = 50 X 50 = 2500

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by ganeshrkamath » Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:45 pm
goyalsau wrote:There are 100 tokens numbered from 1 to 100. In how many ways can two tokens be drawn simultaneously so that their sum is more than 100?



4950

5050

2500

2550

5000
1+100____________________________ 1
2+100, 2+99______________________ 2
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50+100,....,50+51________________ 50
51+100,....,51+52________________ 49
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98+100,98+99_____________________ 2
99+100___________________________ 1

Total = 49(50) + 50 = 2500
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by nikhilgmat31 » Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:38 pm
Can't we do it like this.

first number is selected among 1...50 in 50-1+1 = 50 ways
second number is selected among 100...51 in 100 - 51 +1 = 50 ways

total number of ways = 50 * 50 = 2500