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by AIM GMAT » Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:46 am
In 1791 Robert Carter III, one of the wealthiest plantation owners in Virginia, stunned his family, friends, and neighbors by filing a deed of emancipation, setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered his property.

(A) setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered
(B) setting free more than the 500 slaves legally considered as
(C) and set free more than 500 slaves, who were legally considered as
(D) and set free more than the 500 slaves who were legally considered
(E) and he set free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered as
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by atulmangal » Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:06 am
IMO A

This is a purely meaning base question, a major threat for non-natives and as per my information such questions consist a major part of the changed pattern in GMAT SC..

One can easily eliminate B, C, E---> wrong idiom

Then comes A and D...well Op D is very tempting...a perfect parallelism...stunned parallel to set...but parallel events are mutually exclusive...in short they have no co relation with each other...but here the two events are co related...

The logical meaning is...

Robert Carter III stunned everyone by filing a deed of emancipation and that filing results in setting free more than 500 slaves....

Op A reflects this correct meaning....however, m not able to understand the difference in terms of meaning these two implies...

the more than 500 slaves and more than the 500 slaves

THE placed before nouns...2nd one, i think suggests...more than a modifier and THE before noun slaves....can't say anything confidently..here

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by ankurmit » Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:08 am
IMO A

correct idiom is considered X Y

on use of 'set' and 'setting' I agree with Atul
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by rohu27 » Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:17 am
IMO Aconsidered as is wrong,
so left with A and D
D says - A stunned blah blah... by X and Y, where infact Y here describes how he stunned .
so I will go wth A

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by bubbliiiiiiii » Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:39 am
AIM GMAT wrote:In 1791 Robert Carter III, one of the wealthiest plantation owners in Virginia, stunned his family, friends, and neighbors by filing a deed of emancipation, setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered his property.

(A) setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered
(B) setting free more than the 500 slaves legally considered as
(C) and set free more than 500 slaves, who were legally considered as
(D) and set free more than the 500 slaves who were legally considered
(E) and he set free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered as
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by bubbliiiiiiii » Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:51 am
Possible constructions of the sentence.

In 1791 Robert Carter III, one of the wealthiest plantation owners in Virginia, stunned his family, friends, and neighbors by filing a deed of emancipation, setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered his property.

1. by X, Y [idiomatic]
2. by X, Y [Y is modifying X, explaining what X is.]
3. by X, Y [parallels the and]

If OA is D, then it has to be the 3rd form.
If OA is A, then it has to be either 1st or 2nd. In that case, how do we identify which one is correct?

Experts help solicited.
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by atulmangal » Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:08 am
bubbliiiiiiii wrote:Possible constructions of the sentence.

In 1791 Robert Carter III, one of the wealthiest plantation owners in Virginia, stunned his family, friends, and neighbors by filing a deed of emancipation, setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered his property.

1. by X, Y [idiomatic]
2. by X, Y [Y is modifying X, explaining what X is.]
3. by X, Y [parallels the and]

If OA is D, then it has to be the 3rd form.
If OA is A, then it has to be either 1st or 2nd. In that case, how do we identify which one is correct?

Experts help solicited.
Hey Pranay,

seems like u are getting confused with basics...it happens...
by X, Y [Y is modifying X, explaining what X is.]
Y doesn't modify only X, it modifies the whole preceding clause...remember COMMA + ING participial rule...
by X, Y [idiomatic]
for this to be parallel, u need " by X, Y and Z "

u can't say filing, setting are parallel....where is the parallelism connector???

Op D is parallel, parallel connector AND is there and verbs of first clause and second clause are parallel...

stunned and set....but parallelism is what we do not want..?? read my post, u get the answer why..

In op A, setting is acting as a modifier and modifying or best u can say defining the whole action in the preceding clause...it showing that release of slaves happen because of the event indicated in 1st clause...while Op D suggests both the events have no co relation.

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by sharmasumitn1 » Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:45 am
atulmangal wrote:IMO A

This is a purely meaning base question, a major threat for non-natives and as per my information such questions consist a major part of the changed pattern in GMAT SC..

One can easily eliminate B, C, E---> wrong idiom

Then comes A and D...well Op D is very tempting...a perfect parallelism...stunned parallel to set...but parallel events are mutually exclusive...in short they have no co relation with each other...but here the two events are co related...

The logical meaning is...

Robert Carter III stunned everyone by filing a deed of emancipation and that filing results in setting free more than 500 slaves....

Op A reflects this correct meaning....however, m not able to understand the difference in terms of meaning these two implies...

the more than 500 slaves and more than the 500 slaves

THE placed before nouns...2nd one, i think suggests...more than a modifier and THE before noun slaves....can't say anything confidently..here
Atul,
My 2cents

The location of the article 'THE' makes all the difference in the meaning of the sentence.

-->somebody set free more than the 500 slaves means that (There were only 500 slaves and somebody set free more than slaves...may be non-slaves)
-->somebody set free the more than 500 slaves means that (Somebody set free more than 500 slaves...may be there were 1000s of slaves in virgina)

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by atulmangal » Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:52 am
Atul,
My 2cents

The location of the article 'THE' makes all the difference in the meaning of the sentence.

-->somebody set free more than the 500 slaves means that (There were only 500 slaves and somebody set free more than slaves...may be non-slaves)
-->somebody set free the more than 500 slaves means that (Somebody set free more than 500 slaves...may be there were 1000s of slaves in virgina)
Yeah this make sense...thanks bro

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by force5 » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:51 am
everything has already been said and explained well. Yes between A and D , the choice D makes Set parallel to stunned conveying an incorrect meaning as though they are separate independent events.
A is the best modifying deed of emancipation.

well said guys..esp atul.

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by catseye » Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:24 am
AIM GMAT wrote:In 1791 Robert Carter III, one of the wealthiest plantation owners in Virginia, stunned his family, friends, and neighbors by filing a deed of emancipation, setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered his property.

(A) setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered
(B) setting free more than the 500 slaves legally considered as
(C) and set free more than 500 slaves, who were legally considered as
(D) and set free more than the 500 slaves who were legally considered
(E) and he set free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered as
I have come to option A.

1. Consider X Y: is correct, and "consider X as Y" is not correct.
--> Eliminate B, C, and E.
We are left with A and D.

The skeleton of the sentence is as follows:

In 1791 Robert Carter III stunned X his family, friends, and neighbors by filing a deed of emancipation, setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered..

==> Robert stunned X, setting free.

Now, we have, in the option D, COMMA + AND. Then it looks as follows:

Robert stunned X, and set free.

In case two verbs of a single subject, we should not use COMMA before the second verb.

This error has been made in the option D; therefore, the option D is faulty.

Answer is thus A.
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by GMATMadeEasy » Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:28 am
Agreed A . but if we ignore considered as error in B, what is the difference between

"setting free THE more than 500 slaves" and "setting free more than THE 500 slaves" ?

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by GMATGuruNY » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:34 am
AIM GMAT wrote:In 1791 Robert Carter III, one of the wealthiest plantation owners in Virginia, stunned his family, friends, and neighbors by filing a deed of emancipation, setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered his property.

(A) setting free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered
(B) setting free more than the 500 slaves legally considered as
(C) and set free more than 500 slaves, who were legally considered as
(D) and set free more than the 500 slaves who were legally considered
(E) and he set free the more than 500 slaves who were legally considered as
In C, D and E, stunned...and set free incorrectly implies that there were two distinct actions: that RC III stunned his family and then set free the slaves. The intended meaning is that the two actions were contemporaneous: in the course of setting free the slaves, RC III stunned his family. Eliminate C, D and E.

In B, considered as is not the correct idiom. The correct idiom for the SC above is X was considered Y. Eliminate B.

The correct answer is A.

In B, setting free more than the 500 slaves incorrectly implies that RC III set free things in addition to the 500 slaves.
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by anujmalik » Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:32 pm
Great Explanations!!!

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